[10:53] Qie Niangao: Agenda notwithstanding, I'd like to ask a quick yes-or-no question: Will there be some special content filtering ability to prevent the 16- and 17-year olds from seeing and interacting with non-General-rated content on adjacent, Adult- or Mature-rated sims? (I don't want to spend time discussing details, I just think it's a burning question for many.)
[10:54] colleen Criss: I vote no
[10:54] colleen Criss: hello Hypatia
[10:55] Hypatia Meili: Hi everyone
[10:55] Qie Niangao: Hi Hypatia
[10:55] Lias Leandros: well I a not sure that is an agenda concern Qie
[10:55] Lias Leandros: Hi Hypatia
[10:55] colleen Criss: its not on agenda
[10:55] Lias Leandros: its not a Zindra concern I meant
[10:55] colleen Criss: and will not be solved in this OH
[10:56] Lias Leandros: 'begging Linden Lab to further isolate us from the consumers does not sound like we are going in the right direction
[10:56] Lias~ AKEYO_PowerAO_PricelessGirl-SloMo_HUD (v 1.9): Typing override: Off
[10:56] Lias~ AKEYO_PowerAO_PricelessGirl-SloMo_HUD (v 1.9): Sit anywhere: On
[10:56] Qie Niangao: Well, that's just it: it's not on the agenda. but if folks don't want me to ask it, I won't ask it. It's very tangentially related to Zindra, inasmuch as, at present, Adult sims on Estates can have General sims adjacent... so could in theory set up Shared Media peep shows for the youngsters, across the sim border.
[10:56] Hypatia Meili: further isolate? dont know what your discusing bu that does not sound good
[10:57] colleen Criss: Q Id take those concerns directly to the LAB
[10:57] Lias Leandros: But Qie, we dont represent parent groups
[10:57] colleen Criss: thats thier baby
[10:57] Lias Leandros: what do we care if teens see porn in SL?
[10:57] colleen Criss: as we see we wont change thier minds on it but good luck
[10:57] Qie Niangao: we care because it's something the Estates can do that Zindra can't
[10:58] Qie Niangao: unless the estates *can't*
[10:58] Lias Leandros: So crippling estates to the level that we are crippled wont help us
[10:58] colleen Criss: they can go to A and age verified for an extra safety measure now but thats about it and NOT a solution
[10:58] Silvanus Northman: Hi all together
[10:58] Qie Niangao: okay, fuck it then.
[10:59] colleen Criss: hello Sil, Bady
[10:59] Bady Boozehound: Hello party people !
[11:00] Zada Bury: greetings around
[11:00] Hypatia Meili: both curent vefication methods suck , but i would recomend blocking one or th other or requiring both
[11:00] colleen Criss: hello Zada
[11:00] Lias Leandros: It's hard to cover the first agenda item aboutthe Holiday Message from the Zindra SIm if Counter is not here since he is th eone approved to develop the Holiday ebent on ZIndra this year
[11:00] Qie Niangao: kind of out of lead time for that event, seems to me
[11:00] Silvanus Northman: Hi Blondin
[11:00] Hypatia Meili: might as well close down then
[11:00] Qie Niangao: Hi Blondin
[11:01] Ginette Pinazzo: he has not been approved because he did not do a proposal....anywya. the agenda item stands
[11:01] Hypatia Meili: Hi Blondin
[11:01] Ginette Pinazzo: Hi Blonmdin
[11:01] Lias Leandros: he has been approved
[11:01] colleen Criss: hello Blondin
[11:01] Lias Leandros: period
[11:01] Lias Leandros: and you cannot just say you will now develop a holiday messaage on the sim of Zindra because you wantto
[11:01] Ginette Pinazzo: ni lias...wromg again..read the wiki
[11:01] colleen Criss: shall we dig up the text of Blondin telling him he was approved for the event Gina?
[11:01] Blondin Linden: hi all. Looks like Im walking into the middle of it!
[11:01] colleen Criss: it exists
[11:01] Ginette Pinazzo: you dotn even know my message yet so relax
[11:02] Lias Leandros: You ghave no right to make one for the sim of Zindra
[11:02] colleen Criss: ok lets get to this huh
[11:02] Ginette Pinazzo: whatever.....how was yoru holiday Blondin?
[11:02] Lias Leandros: you are pouncing on Counter's small event
[11:02] Blondin Linden: well lets get started
[11:02] Lias Leandros: when you should be concenbtrating on your large event
[11:03] Hypatia Meili: can i ask if you will be at your other OH this week?
[11:03] Blondin Linden: Im gunna work right down the list since I didnt update it last week due to my canceling the OH
[11:03] Zada Bury: So, how are you this week, Blondin?
[11:03] Zada Bury: heya Blondin.#
[11:03] Blondin Linden: Yeah I think so Hypa
[11:03] Hypatia Meili: ok :)
[11:03] Blondin Linden: 1) Zindra Sim Holiday Message
[11:03] Ginette Pinazzo: we are finally reaching out across Zindra and beyond.....we need ot keep this meetings professional......one agenda item ata time
[11:03] Ginette Pinazzo: ok Im ready with my message
[11:03] Ginette Pinazzo: its hort.......
[11:03] Blondin Linden: Is this still an issue? Was it time sensitive for Thanksgiving?
[11:03] Ginette Pinazzo: *short!
[11:04] Ginette Pinazzo: Originally my message was more complex, because of the Zindar Sim issue etc. But as its practically December already, time to plan anything is almost nonexistant......so here is my very simplified message.....
[11:04] Lias Leandros: unbelievable
[11:04] Ginette Pinazzo: I suggest we set aside one of these Monday OH meetings as a Holiday party.....(pick a date) ........no meeting...no agenda...just a party...but Blondin will still need to show up!............
[11:04] Ginette Pinazzo: I think the group needs this cheer after all the drama and crisis. I think for many people, these OH meetings are a chore and very unpleasant, and many of us would love a chance to relax and try to reconnect as friends or make new friends......
[11:04] Qie Niangao: Blondin, I think it just has to be ready to go by the time Winterfest starts.
[11:05] Ginette Pinazzo: A chance to 'unwind' and celebrate the progress we have made and to think positively about next year. .......
[11:05] Ginette Pinazzo: FIN
[11:06] Qie Niangao: That's fine, Ginette, just has nothing to do with the agenda topic. So, I presume we're still on for the snowman contest, once Counter gets back.
[11:06] Blondin Linden: I think a party sounds nice :) Maybe we should hear from the ZA and see what they had in mind for the snowman building contest. I know they wanted it to be a bit more involved than just that.
[11:06] Ginette Pinazzo: no Qie..that IS my agenda topic
[11:06] Blondin Linden: and then tie the party into that
[11:07] Qie Niangao: Okay, that's fine then. I assume Counter has his plans underway.
[11:07] Lias Leandros: I will suugest a 'grab bag' script to Counter - where we all can drop gifts and then people can touch and randomly receive a 'present'
[11:07] Ginette Pinazzo: its already Dec, bascially...and counter has said he wont doa proposal for the snowman contest...at last meeting anyway
[11:07] Lias Leandros: like those dumsters
[11:07] Blondin Linden: lets wait and see what Counter and the ZA have pulled togehter.
[11:07] Lias Leandros: OK
[11:07] Ginette Pinazzo: all I am saying is that we do one of these Monday meetings as a simple party
[11:07] colleen Criss: believes Blondin did not require one
[11:08] Qie Niangao: Thanks. Blondin.
[11:08] Ginette Pinazzo: read the wiki colleen
[11:08] Blondin Linden: what do people think about that? setting aside a meeting in 2 weeks for a party?
[11:08] colleen Criss: again I do not recall Blondin asking for one
[11:08] Lias Leandros: Ginette how about using the grab bag idea where we all drop a gift and get a gift?
[11:08] Blondin Linden: ie - no agenda, just dancing
[11:08] colleen Criss: this has nothing to do with the islands
[11:08] Lias Leandros: oh
[11:09] Qie Niangao: Sounds good to me, Blondin... or maybe a little later, depending on your schedule, to coincide with the Winterfest stuff.
[11:09] Lias Leandros: I thought that agenda item mentioned the sim of ZIndra - I apoligize
[11:09] Ginette Pinazzo: I thinka simple party for this group would help.......dancing, drinking, etc
[11:09] Lias Leandros: what about the grab bag Ginette?
[11:09] colleen Criss: Id contribute to a grab bag its a nice idea
[11:10] Lias Leandros: Ginette refuses to acknowledge me
[11:10] Ginette Pinazzo: a grab bag for a party here? why not
[11:10] Lias Leandros: next agenda item then please
[11:10] Blondin Linden: Ok. So how about MOnday the 10th - instead of an OH here, we meet over on Zindra or somewhere, set some music and have a party
[11:10] Lias Leandros: so just give Blondin the grab bag and he can drop it here
[11:10] Ginette Pinazzo: Blondin...are you interested in thsi idea..to choose a OH date to have a party?
[11:11] Blondin Linden: I'll turn Rez on so it'll BYOP (Bring your own Prims)
[11:11] Ginette Pinazzo: (marks calendar)..soudsn good to me
[11:11] Lias Leandros: then we can fill it at each meeting until the day its available to take stuff from it
[11:11] Silvanus Northman: : )
[11:11] colleen Criss: I can make a santa bag for it
[11:12] Ginette Pinazzo: Blondin., my ORIGINAL holiday message DID relate to the Zindra Sim etc ...but as counter never proposed..thats why I simplfied the message...if he IS still trying to move forward, I will wanmt to amke that full message anotehr time
[11:12] Blondin Linden: So the next item is on there 2X
[11:12] Blondin Linden: 2) Zindra Expo Group Charte
[11:12] Blondin Linden: So I took a look at both GInette's and Lias' suggestions.
[11:12] Ginette Pinazzo: A few weeks ago, I presented an updated charter for the Zindra Expo group, written in conjunction with about 12 other members......
[11:13] Lias Leandros: and it was not good
[11:13] Ginette Pinazzo: thsat is your opinion Lias.....many otehrs disagree with you
[11:13] Blondin Linden: Ginette's felt a little too community based/driven for what I had in mind and Lias' sounded a little....sterile? perhaps? Im not sure. Just kinda technical. So I kinda tried to merge the two
[11:13] Lias Leandros: There is no Linden run resident volunteer program on the grid anymore
[11:13] colleen Criss: listens to Blondin
[11:14] Ginette Pinazzo: lias...your opinion is biased as youve been acvtively trying to diminish this group and even troll it to get peoepl to switch over tyo ZA....public record
[11:14] Blondin Linden: Zindra Expo is a group for residents to join as they plan and host events on the Expo Island, found at the four corners of Distrel, Girenzi, Jaraded and Tramboyn. The purpose of the group is to 1) grant temporary land rights to Residents working
[11:14] Blondin Linden: on approved events using the land and 2) act as a communication tool for the dispersal of information. Please feel free to join the group to get updates on and to participate in Zindra events.
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[11:14] Qie Niangao: Sounds good to me.
[11:14] Blondin Linden: ...thoughts?
[11:14] colleen Criss: stop you 2p lease or cryng outloud
[11:15] Lias Leandros: sterile= clear that it is not to be used for residents to recruit residents in order to send out their personal take on Zindra community issues
[11:15] Zada Bury: the merge sounds good
[11:15] Ginette Pinazzo: I think its far too limiiting, Blondin....and will become a real nightmare later
[11:15] Lias Leandros: ZINDRA EVENTS
[11:15] Bady Boozehound: If it fits in the group charter^^ Agreed.
[11:15] colleen Criss: works great
[11:15] Ginette Pinazzo: bhut its yoru group, Blondin
[11:15] Lias Leandros: Events on Linden owned Land
[11:15] Blondin Linden: I took a look at the group charter as it curretly stands
[11:15] Lias Leandros: not just Zindra events
[11:16] Blondin Linden: and its just the next event and the slurls for my OH
[11:16] Ginette Pinazzo: teh charter is outdated anyway....
[11:16] Hypatia Meili: sounds to me like what has been going on in the group share news and events
[11:16] Lias Leandros: share news and events for things that happen on Linden owned land
[11:16] Ginette Pinazzo: tyhis group can and already ahs doen more than just zexpo iusland events....limiting it is what ZA members want and wil limit all progress
[11:16] Hypatia Meili: you know regardless unles blondin expresly forbids it expo group wil still funbction as a defacto comunity group be cause it is fulof comunity members
[11:16] Qie Niangao: Lias? You mean Linden events on other continents?
[11:16] Lias Leandros: not resident owned land in Zindra
[11:17] Lias Leandros: if you just state ZINDRA EVENTS it will be exploited and presented to people as THE event group for Zindra
[11:17] Silvanus Northman: I think the message should say that this group is a place to speak and plan together with Linden
[11:17] Ginette Pinazzo: I urge to reconsider this limiting charter, Blondin
[11:17] Silvanus Northman: in less and clear words
[11:17] colleen Criss: agrees on that point Lias
[11:17] Lias Leandros: and as Ginette likes to say - it will be presented as the TRUSTED ZIndra event group because it is owned by a Linden
[11:17] Ginette Pinazzo: I agree Silvanus...we hav real opportunity here........that wont be possible with a limited charter
[11:17] Bady Boozehound: Though i think 'for residents to join as they plan and host events' sounds like too much responsibility for many people to join :-)
[11:18] Lias Leandros: yes a realopportunity to exploit the group for your own agenda
[11:18] Silvanus Northman: yes Bady
[11:18] colleen Criss: lol well if they want to use the islands they need to join and be responsible huh
[11:18] Silvanus Northman: a message on an equal leven to the residents would be fine
[11:18] Hypatia Meili: to share news on & to conect in order too? ??
[11:18] Bady Boozehound: Yes ... everyone who volunteers to be a greeter at an event should feel like a host, right colleen^^
[11:18] Ginette Pinazzo: its not my agenda...and I am tired of hearinmg that accusation
[11:19] Lias Leandros: I usge you to add the words "Linden -owned Land" in the charter Blondin
[11:19] Lias Leandros: be honest and clear
[11:19] Ginette Pinazzo: if you cared about Zindra...youd care about the growth of ZE AS WELL as resident-run groups....but you obviosuly dont
[11:19] Lias Leandros: Lindens are not running event groups on the mainland
[11:19] Qie Niangao: look, if it's a Linden owned group, a Linden calls the shots. anybody can make any ol' community group they want, outside the Linden group.
[11:19] colleen Criss: they sponsor not run the events
[11:19] Bady Boozehound: How about you just leave the group charter blank ? I don't think too many people care about group charters anyway ... and it seems it's only causing trouble :-)
[11:19] Lias Leandros: Did you see the notecard that Ginette sends out recruiting people for the Zexpo group?
[11:20] Lias Leandros: it clearly mis represents the group and its purpose
[11:20] Lias Leandros: enough of that
[11:20] colleen Criss: yes it does
[11:20] Hypatia Meili: we can use it to share news on zindra related stuff tho can't we ?
[11:20] Blondin Linden: Interesting idea Bady :)
[11:20] Lias Leandros: you can use any group to talk if you are a member and the officers allow idele chatter
[11:20] Ginette Pinazzo: Blondin....without getting personal (I wont)...its clear from precedence that lias and ZA have been trying to undermine ZE anywya.....isnt this an issue regarding motive? Why not allow for resident runs grous AND ZE to coexist? andf grow?
[11:21] Lias Leandros: thats not the same as exploiting a group becausethe founder is a Linden
[11:21] colleen Criss: ZA does not belong to Lias
[11:21] Lias Leandros: Ginette do you still have that ZEXPO group recruitment notecard you have been sending out?
[11:22] Silvanus Northman: just 'keep it simple' I think
[11:22] Lias Leandros: that answers your question about why the charter has to be CLEAR
[11:22] colleen Criss: I likely have it somewhere
[11:22] Ginette Pinazzo: as I saud....if you CARE about Zuindar for real, ytoud support ZE growing too
[11:22] Hypatia Meili: well expo group is made up of "zindra members" so it becomes a place to share Zindra info
[11:22] Hypatia Meili: i do not see what we would wan to prevent that
[11:22] Blondin Linden: Ginette - I want them to coexist, I do. But I understand how a group formed by a Linden and another one that isn't might look to someone who wants to pick 1 group over another. I just want to be fair
[11:22] Lias Leandros: This was not an issue until you Ginette started misrepresenting teh group for your own gain
[11:22] Ginette Pinazzo: since you have been trying to stop ZE initiatves from day one...(since zewxpo ended)......how can you be taken seriosuly as ZE supporter?
[11:22] colleen Criss: I do support all resident groups , this group is for use of linden lab land
[11:23] Lias Leandros: when we see obvious exploitations - its only smart to close the exploit before it gets out of hand
[11:23] Hypatia Meili: donot need to pick one ots a news and info outlet can be more then one
[11:23] Blondin Linden: I'll take another crack at the charter but Bady's idea of leaving it blank is looking real good :)
[11:23] Ginette Pinazzo: I agree with the Linden Land part...siure.......but not just for events, Blondin
[11:23] Blondin Linden: ok - moving on
[11:23] Qie Niangao: I don't see why ZEXPO *needs* to be more than a land-management group for the expo sims, and spin-off a separate, non-Linden group for all the community stuff.
[11:23] Ginette Pinazzo: exploiutations?????
[11:23] Blondin Linden: 3) Podyan / Zindra name switch
[11:23] Hypatia Meili: becaus peopel ar already in it
[11:23] Lias Leandros: a clear charter stating its a group for residents to join to propose, engage in and get information about ZIndra events on LINDEN OWNED LAND is the best way to stop the group from being exploited for anything else
[11:24] colleen Criss: agrees good idea really
[11:24] Ginette Pinazzo: accuse me of explooitation aga9in and thats it
[11:24] colleen Criss: this groups charter was fine to begin with
[11:24] Bady Boozehound: Let me guess ... you didn't hear anything about the name switch so far, Blondin ?^^
[11:24] Lias Leandros: and that's it?
[11:24] Lias Leandros: lol
[11:24] Blondin Linden: still no update but before we swtich the names (if we do) I want the moles to finish making the current podyan look nice and to add Verification information for new users
[11:24] colleen Criss: STOP
[11:24] colleen Criss: good lord please
[11:24] Lias Leandros: So you will add the kiosksthere in a Mature sim Blondin?
[11:25] Qie Niangao: (frankly, I'm not too sure switching the names is still a good idea)
[11:25] Ginette Pinazzo: yous top colleen...you are not the chair
[11:25] colleen Criss: nor are you !
[11:25] Lias Leandros: are you talking about Colleen's kiosk or just a Linden one?
[11:25] colleen Criss: agenda please
[11:25] Blondin Linden: yeah I will but Im looking for soemthing a bit more than the kiosks, hopefully built out by the moles
[11:25] colleen Criss: hello baby :)
[11:25] Lias Leandros: ythats cool also Blondin\
[11:25] Lias Leandros: ANY adult verification that can be placed in all of the welcome areas across the grid is acceptable
[11:26] Blondin Linden: Im talking about both Lias, both Colleen's kiosk (which I havent done anything with yet and I apologize - IM me this week and we'll set up 1v1 time to place it out) and some Mole work
[11:26] Bady Boozehound: When do you think the moles will get started with that ? And be done with it ? This year ?
[11:26] Lias Leandros: Im sure you saw that Linden Lab advertises ADult verification as a premium perk only to new accounts
[11:26] Hypatia Meili: if it may be something we may use else where plese tell them to keep th prims low, moles love touse prims
[11:26] Toran Babenco: Hey :)
[11:26] colleen Criss: I am presenting this this week and then I will remove it from the agenda as it is pretty stale since 09 , If this is not in your opinion, Blondin, going to come to fruition I am wasting my time and yours continuing to persue this Kiosk.
I've provided l
[11:26] colleen Criss: I've provided low prim and non adult textures and info 2 ways , via web link and inworld LMs etc., and all of it the info LLs uses .
4 prims, generic texture, 1 script. Never needs updated as long as the LLs wiki site is fresh this kiosk can be set out
[11:27] Lias Leandros: Hypatia - colleen made a oneprim sculpty adult verification Kiosk
[11:27] Lias Leandros: hi Toran
[11:27] colleen Criss: at M sim Info HUBS also a link Ive provided to you and quite honestly IF you look it could be set out on G rated sims Info HUBS BUT definately M. V2 drops info in a file folder V1 opens to the LLs wiki page.
[11:27] colleen Criss: Noticing the new coming avatars that pay LLs membership at creation are instantly granted access to all things adult , I see that there is no clear mention of getting age verified w/o PIOF. It appears LLs is pushing adult access as a perk IF they become
[11:27] Lias Leandros: sure - it can and should go in every hub
[11:28] Toran Babenco: Hello Lias :)
[11:28] colleen Criss: paying avatars but not showing adult as available thru age verification only. Seems to me this info is just as valuable as PIOF.
[11:28] Blondin Linden: I do want to place them out Colleen, though sometimes, I need to actually schedule time on my calendar to do things. Otherwise, I get pulled into different directions and forget. And I'll admit, I forget from time to time
[11:28] colleen Criss: end
[11:28] Lias Leandros: there has to be some information about adult verification made available to non premium accounts
[11:28] colleen Criss: understands Blondin
[11:28] Bady Boozehound: Blondin, when do you think the moles will get started with that ? And be done with it ? This year ?
[11:28] Blondin Linden: so lets meet up this week Colleen. Let me know what time works best for you
[11:28] colleen Criss: :) thank you I will
[11:29] VooDoo Greeter: hoho Wonder entered the defined area. (Bear <218.18940, 177.80250, 106.93150>)
[11:29] Qie Niangao: the kiosks can go out as soon as possible... no need to wait for Podyan
[11:29] Blondin Linden: Bady - I dunno. I think they have something to finsih for Linden Homes first but then I think they will ahve the bandwidth
[11:29] colleen Criss: let me ck my schedule and get back with you via notecard
[11:29] Blondin Linden: Ill know more today/tomorrow
[11:29] Blondin Linden: thanks COlleen
[11:29] colleen Criss: :)
[11:30] Blondin Linden: ok next item: Adult Verification Wiki Update
[11:30] Blondin Linden: GInette?
[11:30] Ginette Pinazzo: are you jumping aroudn the agenda again? haha
[11:30] Silvanus Northman: the english version is now different to the other 3 languages
[11:30] Ginette Pinazzo: you were goingt o updatre the how to verify wiki
[11:31] Blondin Linden: yeah I took a pass at it a few weeks ago
[11:31] Blondin Linden: pictures and text were quickly updated
[11:31] Silvanus Northman: and the english version has a link about how to setup the preferences, I didnt see it first, and thought its missed
[11:31] Ginette Pinazzo: a few have told me there is till soem glaring error(s) though
[11:31] Blondin Linden: yeah thats waht I was wondering
[11:31] Silvanus Northman: I see, ok Blondin
[11:31] Blondin Linden: If you see any errors - feel free to email
[11:31] Blondin Linden: and Ill fix them
[11:31] colleen Criss: its not been updated yet to thier new pay perk for new avis
[11:31] Ginette Pinazzo: ok I have feedbcak froma resident or 2 will email you
[11:33] colleen Criss: holy lag batman !
[11:33] Blondin Linden: thanks
[11:33] Blondin Linden: ok next item
[11:33] Blondin Linden: Art Maze 2011 Report
[11:33] colleen Criss: welcomeback handsome :)
[11:33] Ginette Pinazzo: ARt Maze update...all good news.......
[11:34] Ginette Pinazzo: 1. we set out 32 maze sections....we already have half our our artists booked......they have all started building at their own sims and we will be checking up on them every week.....
[11:34] Silvanus Northman: Hi Mapp
[11:34] Toran Babenco: thanks
[11:34] Ginette Pinazzo: 2. We have reporters doing individual artist interviews, for the show's Program Book, website and other PR use........
[11:34] Laurence Mapp: hey Silvanus .)
[11:34] Ginette Pinazzo: 3. we have portrait photographer Gualterio Albatros (PhotoKool Studio), who is doing group shots of all the artists and is also making some cute collectible Art Maze coffee mugs for the lobby........
[11:34] Ginette Pinazzo: 4. We are doing press releases for various inworld and offworld publications now...... (I did get yoru email abt that Blondin)
[11:34] Ginette Pinazzo: 5. I've been working with the LEA on a mutually beneficial relationship. Since the LEA is really just starting out, I think we can help each other........We have LEA members as some of the artists too......
[11:35] Ginette Pinazzo: 6. Ive been talking with Ronon Carver (who runs the 'Rangers' from Burn),. He and/or one of his colleague will sign on as 'advisors' to our team, to help during the event. I dont expect issues like Burn has, partly because we are on Zindra and griefing should be less an issue, but Rowan had some very good ideas to help us......
[11:35] Ginette Pinazzo: FIN
[11:35] Blondin Linden: I;ve worked with Ronan before on Burning Life
[11:36] Ginette Pinazzo: yes he ahd some great insight
[11:36] Ginette Pinazzo: hes our official Art Maze Mediator
[11:36] Blondin Linden: and Im glad to see a tie in with the LEA . They are starting to meet again and COurntey Linden is the liaison there
[11:36] Blondin Linden: I went over this morning to take a look
[11:36] Blondin Linden: looks interesting
[11:37] Blondin Linden: at the regions
[11:37] Ginette Pinazzo: great...I hope to really work closely with them
[11:37] Blondin Linden: excited to see it come together
[11:37] Blondin Linden: does anyone have any questions for GInette?
[11:37] Blondin Linden: constructive questions :)
[11:37] Ginette Pinazzo: you wotn se much of the maze sections themsleves until ,the artists start bring them over to fit otgethr...it will look sparse for a whiel
[11:38] Qie Niangao: Is there a chance the artists would be interested in contributing work for other public locations on the continent?
[11:38] Qie Niangao: I mean, as (more or less) permanent installations?
[11:38] Ginette Pinazzo: I dotn see why you cant ask them Qie...they are all different...difefernt backgrounds...why not ask
[11:38] Ginette Pinazzo: its a great idea
[11:39] Blondin Linden: and by public.....do you mean Linden land?
[11:39] Qie Niangao: yes
[11:39] Ginette Pinazzo: we did solicit artists to design a 'designer' version of the Flickr Slideshow kiosk..for example......
[11:40] Qie Niangao: I mean all the squares, etc, scattered around Kama City, with prims to spare.
[11:40] Ginette Pinazzo: bringing artists from all over into Zindra projects is a great way to do outreach
[11:40] Ginette Pinazzo: (se we can have multiple styles available)
[11:40] Blondin Linden: well, before we drop any instalations - I'd want to make sure that the piece made sense for where you wanted it to go, get neighbor sign off, things like that
[11:41] Silvanus Northman: ok , I made a small slideshow of the actual state there: http://www.myprimspace.com/Zindra/ArtMazeViews/arTMaze.html
[11:41] Ginette Pinazzo: that soudns like a good beautification AND outreach plan, Qie
[11:41] Qie Niangao: Blondin: yeah, that was what I wanted to say: LDPW should be involved.
[11:41] Blondin Linden: agreed Qie
[11:41] chiman fassbinder: New limited edition liter clams available - We have two new clams that are available for purchase with the liters system. As like all the other ones that are available for purchase with liters they are limited edition. Limited to 100 clams to be sold. They are currently setup with the other pearls that are available for trade in with liters. To answer most of your question, yes there will be other clams that are limited edition that you can earn without liters. However, we may or may not be doing it with the fishing like last time. The limited edition liter clams can be found on the docks that hold all our liter system items.
[11:42] Qie Niangao: (okay, enough about that, till things start happening... I just see a certain synergy between LEA and LDPW -- and Zindra could be a good testbed for it)
[11:42] Lias Leandros: So is it that Qie will volunteer to be some public art Liaison and discuss with Blondin and DPW abbout what pieces from the maze event would fit in public spaces in Zindra?
[11:42] colleen Criss: thats a good idea Q
[11:43] Qie Niangao: (Lias, I just want to get the right people talking... I have very austere taste in art, so definitely not me doing any selecting)
[11:43] Qie Niangao: (god the chatlag is killer here today)
[11:44] Ginette Pinazzo: Id say soemoen shoudl write upa proposal for this public space art idea...so we can see the idea in detail
[11:44] Blondin Linden: Sil - you slide show reminded me of the video about the building of the set for HBO's Boardwalk Empire in brooklyn
[11:44] Blondin Linden: Art Maze 2011 Report
[11:44] Lias Leandros: Okthanks Qie
[11:44] Blondin Linden: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlpFHcA98-E
[11:44] Blondin Linden: link fail
[11:44] Blondin Linden: Its timelapse and you watch it being built
[11:44] Blondin Linden: pretty cool
[11:44] Blondin Linden: Boardwalk Empire btw is an awesome show. You should watch or pick up the dvds when its out :)
[11:45] Silvanus Northman: oh interesting
[11:45] Silvanus Northman: ty
[11:45] Silvanus Northman: yes I already opened YT : ) ty Blondin
[11:45] colleen Criss: next agenda item?
[11:45] Blondin Linden: Flickr group Content Standards
[11:45] Blondin Linden: this one fell through the Holiday cracks
[11:45] Blondin Linden: can we pick it up next week?
[11:46] colleen Criss: agrees
[11:46] Lias Leandros: OK
[11:46] Silvanus Northman: : )
[11:46] Ginette Pinazzo: the Fluckr Slideshgow team did write a darft based on yoru thougths Blondin...but it can wait till nexy week
[11:46] Lias Leandros: we alrready discussed Colleen's age verification Kiosk
[11:46] Blondin Linden: Thanks GInette
[11:46] You decline ...::~*Wicked Desires*~::.., Seduction Point (169, 192, 2999) from A group member named Tiff Dreadlow.
[11:46] Blondin Linden: Next: Anonymous Agenda Items
[11:47] colleen Criss: Im sorry Im so lagged I did not mean to jump ahead of line on that one
[11:47] Blondin Linden: Agreed - please sign your name to agenda items :)
[11:47] Blondin Linden: that way I know who to follow up with
[11:47] Lias Leandros: item #2, Item #3 and Item #7 were added by the same person - but that person refuses to addd their name - but shows up here and discusses these items openly - what's that about?
[11:47] Ginette Pinazzo: i9s this constructve?
[11:47] Lias Leandros: yes please sign your name
[11:47] Lias Leandros: yes its constructive
[11:47] colleen Criss: Im hoping we can get to Hypatias agenda item
[11:48] Blondin Linden: Yes - lets move onto Hypa's
[11:48] Blondin Linden: Where to take Non-Zindra ADult Issues
[11:48] Blondin Linden: this is a good one :)
[11:48] colleen Criss: yes it is
[11:48] Ginette Pinazzo: Hypa...you're on!
[11:48] Blondin Linden: WIth people coming and going at Linden Lab, I understand the question
[11:48] Blondin Linden: trust me, I've asked it of myself too
[11:49] Hypatia Meili: well this meetin is always to busy & Geral adlut isses efect us zindra bein adult
[11:49] Hypatia Meili: so wher can we go on gral issues like search
[11:49] Garden Erotica InfoGiver: seb31 Columbia entered the defined area. (Adult Community Center <142.78040, 122.83090, 33.09755>)
[11:49] Blondin Linden: Search and Keywords would, I think fall under Sea Linden
[11:49] Hypatia Meili: and what lias metioned early
[11:49] Hypatia Meili: yes but as adult
[11:49] Blondin Linden: I think she also did some work on the events Listings
[11:50] Hypatia Meili: or just search function
[11:50] Hypatia Meili: needs to adress both
[11:50] Blondin Linden: basic search was her thing so if it has to do with Adult, I think she'd want to hear it
[11:50] Hypatia Meili: lias coment on veficatio is another example
[11:50] Hypatia Meili: Lias Leandros: there has to be some information about adult verification made available to non premium accounts
[11:51] Hypatia Meili: another is :
[11:51] Hypatia Meili: Market Place Does NOT ask if you are over 18 it asks if you wish to see mature.
What is our responsiblity if the newly ariving teen resdents buy adult Items?
[11:51] Blondin Linden: they actually do mention Adult and upgrade accounts to access certain things Linden Homes and ADult content when new users sign up
[11:51] Hypatia Meili: idont expected detiled answer her but wher do we go?
[11:52] colleen Criss: if they buy an account but not for basic
[11:52] Lias Leandros: I did not see it Blonndin
[11:52] colleen Criss: I didnt see it
[11:52] Lias Leandros: and I cretaed a 4 screen jpeg of the new user sign up process
[11:52] Lias Leandros: anyone that wants it just ask
[11:52] Blondin Linden: It's there. I saw it last week when we launcedh single sign ins
[11:52] Lias Leandros: I have it in inventory
[11:52] Garden Erotica InfoGiver: KittyKat Moonwing entered the defined area. (Adult Community Center <142.78140, 122.83150, 32.87887>)
[11:53] Hypatia Meili: the question tho is wher to go on geral adult issues not zindra spefic
[11:53] Blondin Linden: as for the marketplace - I'd need t go back and look. But soemthing tells me they wont even be able to use it
[11:53] Hypatia Meili: as tonot try to sqeeze them in here
[11:53] Ginette Pinazzo: is there an OH meeting for Adult issues in general, Blondin.....? n
[11:54] Hypatia Meili: wel we cant test it as non teens, i only see what it says
[11:54] colleen Criss: teens wont be able to use mktplace??
[11:54] Lias Leandros: its really not there Blondin - I signed out of secondlife.com and went through the registration process as a new player
[11:54] Blondin Linden: Hypa - I hate to tell ya - GEneral adult issues are best sent to me, even if they aren't ZIndra related. Hate to dissappoint ya
[11:54] Hypatia Meili: your other OH?
[11:55] Blondin Linden: You can bring them up here as they affect us all
[11:55] colleen Criss: how do you want to recieve it Blondin in a mtg or via notecard , email?
[11:55] Blondin Linden: but if not here - then my Wed OH would be an ok place for it
[11:55] colleen Criss: tsk sorry lol got out of order
[11:55] Hypatia Meili: ok som seemd to object to non zindra isues tho
[11:55] Blondin Linden: any of those are acceptable colleen
[11:55] Blondin Linden: though some work better than others
[11:56] Hypatia Meili: as long as that is ofical
[11:56] colleen Criss: ty :)
[11:56] Hypatia Meili: i try tomake that but you mised few there too
[11:56] Date Bar Infogiver: KittyKat Moonwing entered the defined area. (Adult Community Center <82.78516, 146.99920, 24.84796>)
[11:56] Ginette Pinazzo: Id say open ended questions are what5 use of precious time the most...if its ina proposal form (a solution sduggested) thats best forthese meetinsg....
[11:56] colleen Criss: not all things require a proposal
[11:56] Blondin Linden: Hypa - if its adult related, I think this is a good place for it. If you want to discuss something on more of a 1v1 level, my wed oh have calmed down quiet a bit. (prob bc I've been canceling a lot of them lately)
[11:57] Hypatia Meili: welli ned to reword th market issue then
[11:57] colleen Criss: some just require a question answered
[11:57] Ginette Pinazzo: no...but this is how to get thinsg done.....weve had the endless open ended question before...nothing got done
[11:57] Ginette Pinazzo: you cant avoid soem of them...but its good to try to coem to the table with solutions when possible
[11:57] colleen Criss: then ignore what does not interest you directly Gina
[11:57] colleen Criss: simple
[11:57] Ginette Pinazzo: colleen..stop being so 'neutral'
[11:57] Blondin Linden: Hypa - if you want to discuss soemthing here , just throw it up on the agenda and we'll try to get to it :)
[11:57] Blondin Linden: ok
[11:58] Lias Leandros: good idea Blondin
[11:58] Blondin Linden: I think thats it for this week....
[11:58] Hypatia Meili: ok
[11:58] Blondin Linden: ?
[11:58] colleen Criss: lol god forbid anyone is neutral
[11:58] Ginette Pinazzo: so Blondin...JAN 10 for the party here? or wherever?
[11:58] Silvanus Northman: ty Blondin : )
[11:58] Blondin Linden: Dec 10th
[11:58] Blondin Linden: ;)
[11:58] Qie Niangao: thanks Blondin
[11:58] Lias Leandros: remeber to sign your name and not just "Zindra" hypatia:-)
[11:58] Hypatia Meili: as long as non zindra but adult is permited
[11:58] colleen Criss: thank you Blondin , chat soon
[11:58] Ginette Pinazzo: I was being facetious colleen.....look it up
[11:58] Blondin Linden: thanks all
[11:58] Silvanus Northman: 10th Dec., ok scheduled : )
[11:58] Zada Bury: thank you for your time , Blondin
[11:58] Hypatia Meili: i diod didnt i?
[11:58] Ginette Pinazzo: ciao Blondin
[11:58] colleen Criss: why would I look it up Im the retard youd like to think I am
[11:59] Hypatia Meili: by blondin
[11:59] colleen Criss: look that up
[11:59] Dancer Greenfield: Bye Blondin
[11:59] Ginette Pinazzo: I never said you were retarded colleen
[11:59] colleen Criss: then do NOT be condesending to me
[11:59] colleen Criss: its wasted
[11:59] Zada Bury: does somebody knows, why they have roll the sims back to that version, which breaking down, if someone TP in or out?
[11:59] Ginette Pinazzo: same here colleen......keep your petty remarks to your insiode voice
[11:59] Ginette Pinazzo: ciao
[11:59] colleen Criss: rofl
[12:00] colleen Criss: hysterical
[12:00] Lias Leandros: In the spirit of Hypatia, I will add the question about the adult verification upon sign up to the agenda when he cleqars it
[12:00] Hypatia Meili: i know there was an issu on tp landin in privat areas due to lag
[12:00] Toran Babenco laughs to himself
[12:00] colleen Criss: Im glad we covered that item !
[12:00] Lias Leandros: One person cannot attribute an agenda item to an entire group - especially if they have not gotten the permission and approval of the group members.
[12:01] Hypatia Meili: i have sevral gues it wiltake awhile
[12:01] colleen Criss: :0dont give up !!
[12:01] colleen Criss: age verify kiosks since 09 but dont give up
[12:01] Hypatia Meili: il metion another to everyone whos stil here
[12:01] colleen Criss: listens
[12:02] Bady Boozehound: happy fun time, party people !
[12:02] Hypatia Meili: mature location with adult keyword now shoow up in adult search instead of being just hidden
[12:02] Lias Leandros: thats better
[12:02] Hypatia Meili: is that policy change or an error
[12:02] Lias Leandros: lol
[12:02] Lias Leandros: I hope a change
[12:02] colleen Criss: if I understand that, according to LLs they re blocking that from all G rated users how I have no clue
[12:03] Hypatia Meili: it means mature location canadvetrise adult activity on mature
[12:03] Lias Leandros: and I would love to see this place wherew new basic accounts are informed of afdult verification that Blondin spoke of
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