Monday, November 1, 2010

NOVEMBER 1ST WRAP OF AGENDA FROM BLONDIN'S MEETING

AGENDA ON BLONDIN'S WIKI

Agenda items from last week mysteriously disappeared - all of Ginette's items remain on the Agenda for the third month in a row.


1. Ginette's Flickr Slideshow Kiosk: report http://www.flickr.com/groups/exploringzindra
[11:05] Ginette Pinazzo: The information balls on the slideshow kiosk have been updated AND also have a new feature. When touched, they chat their lines in the language of your specific viewer. At this point, they do English, Spanish, Portugese, French, Japanese and German........
[11:05] Ginette Pinazzo: I am about to pass these latest versions of the kiosk to Blondin for placement at Oritz and Arapaima......

[11:06] Ginette Pinazzo: As a next step, Blondin, I'd like to make time soon to have them placed and discuss placement at further Zindra locations.
[11:07] Blondin Linden: ok. IM me later and we can set up a time to talk


2. Ginett's Zindra Expo Group Charter:
https://sites.google.com/site/zindrabusiness/home/zindra-expo-group-charter

[11:11] Lias Leandros: GINTTE'S SUGGESTED TEXT FOR CHARTER....'
Zindra Expo is the Linden group for residents working together to benefit, promote and develop the 'adult continent' of Zindra. Let's hear your fresh and innovative ideas!
Weekly meetings: Monday 11AM Office Hours with Blondin Linden at the Bronlen Cafe.
http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Bronlen/128/224/74
Please join this collective and keep participating for the future of Zindra.


[11:11] Silvanus Northman: I suggest a short text in 4 languages
[11:11] Lias Leandros: its a Linden created land management group
[11:11] Lias Leandros: as was told to us last Monday
[11:12] Counter Landfall: it was clearly stated last week it is an event group?
[11:12] Ginette Pinazzo: Blondin said he was open to new text ideas....this is what we have.....
[11:12] Silvanus Northman: yep
[11:12] Lias Leandros: New Ideas about a Linden owned land management group
[11:12] Counter Landfall: try to work within the statements of direction you get
[11:12] Lias Leandros: not new ideas as in making the Linden group a community group
[11:12] Ginette Pinazzo: do not misdirect ...I use both ears.....you shoudl too......you heard waht you wanted to hear only
[11:12] Ginette Pinazzo: Blondin? thoughts?
[11:12] Counter Landfall: does linden lab policy allow for community groups outside the program for it?
[11:13] colleen Criss: stop sniping
[11:13] Lias Leandros: Charter suggestion: The Linden Land Management Group for event space available to all Zindrans
[11:13] Lias Leandros: how's that ?
[11:13] Lias Leandros: a little closer to the truth

[11:13] Blondin Linden: I think it's a good start and agree that what we have now needs to be updated. I think it might be a bit broad for what I had in mind for the group. Let me take a look over the next few days and take a pass at what you guys have pulled together

[11:15] Blondin Linden: I'll take a pass at it and we can discuss version 1.2 next week .



3. Podyan Sim Zindra switch: The verdict?
[11:16] Blondin Linden: Unfortuantely, no update. Those who I'm trying to get buy in from are indisposed on something. But I'm still on top of the issue.


4. Ginett's Art Maze: Next Steps http://sites.google.com/site/zindrabusiness/home/art-maze-2011

[11:08] Ginette Pinazzo: We're doing the website, getting early responses from artists, and deciding about the Landing Point situation on the Island.......

[11:17] Ginette Pinazzo: Blondin, did you get my email about next steps for the Art maze?
[11:17] Blondin Linden: yes. Did you get my response?
[11:17] Ginette Pinazzo: not yet!

[11:17] Blondin Linden: odd
[11:18] Blondin Linden: I switched your roles in the group so you should be able to get started

[11:18] Ginette Pinazzo: ok..great
[11:18] Ginette Pinazzo: if your response was comprehensive, i dotn need to worry about it herte and now

[11:19] Ginette Pinazzo: Opheliac ios here...the PR commmittee fpr the Maze

[11:55] Ginette Pinazzo: we never settloed on an actua date for the Art Maze, but I imagne that will be throuigh Feb at this rate

[11:55] Lias Leandros: I proposed february
[11:55] Lias Leandros: so thats not available
[11:56] Ginette Pinazzo: follow the process and it all works out
[11:56] Blondin Linden: I have to jet
[11:56] Lias Leandros: and how can you not have a date and not follow the procedure you force on us
[11:56] Lias Leandros: and then just randomly choose the same dates I have?


5. Ginett's Zindra Mentor Team: Brainstorming Report http://sites.google.com/site/zindrabusiness/home/zindra-mentor-team
[11:21] Blondin Linden: Is this on hold until the MGW (Mentors Gone Wild) people come ?

[11:21] Ginette Pinazzo: We had some amazing brainstorming so far. Team members are (so far): .... Ratatosk Independent........ BBQBill Odriscoll........ Moi Macarthur........ Heaven Lacey........ and myself as facillitator........
[11:21] Ginette Pinazzo: We've compiled our notes so far and have thought of some amazing ideas...ideas that really take a new, fresh approach to the problem of no real 'system' of mentoring going on in Zindra. .......
[11:21] Ginette Pinazzo: At this point, I'd advise that we present a comprehensive (but simple and do-able)_ proposal next week. I think we've sorted the solution into easy-to-do steps, and we will present our recommendation for a first step next week........


[11:22] colleen Criss: Heaven Lacey is who I invited today from MGW
[11:22] Lias Leandros: I think what Ginette wants is rols for thse helpers in te Zexpo group
[11:22] Lias Leandros: and that is innapropriate


[11:23] Blondin Linden: before we hear it, I'd like to hear from the MGW people. I just dont want you to overextend yourself with stuff. I'd like to see how the MGW are organized and hear a bit more about their group. Ya know, why try to start a new group if there is one
[11:23] Blondin Linden: here already we can build on
[11:24] Ginette Pinazzo: have you talked with them yet Bondin?
[11:24] Blondin Linden: Perhaps, they, the MGW would like to execute on the ideas that you guys came up with
[11:24] Lias Leandros: MGW CHarter talks about sex and not much more - they need some serious revisions
[11:24] Silvanus Northman: isnt this a serious thing, lias?
[11:24] Ginette Pinazzo: well, the worki weve bene doing Blondin, relatyes to the entire RHN too...not just MGW......
[11:24] Blondin Linden: no I havent spoken with them yet. I don't know much about them to be honest. Thats why I'd like to hear more
[11:25] Qie Niangao: Sil, sex isn't only serious... for some of us, it's *tragic*
[11:26] Silvanus Northman: rigth, Qie, I agree
[11:26] Blondin Linden: maybe we can talk more about this next week. I think an Adult mentor group is a good idea. Now the issue is the best way to impliment
[11:26] Lias Leandros: Resident Help Networks don't peddle sex education
[11:26] Ginette Pinazzo: RHN has already exp[ressed interest in brainstorming with us...and we are doing it........I am only saying wev gotten a decent proposal together...and MGW is also involved in that
[11:27] colleen Criss: RHNs are about helping residents and edu not sex
[11:27] Lias Leandros: RHN is not an entity Ginette
[11:27] Silvanus Northman: oh Echo from colleen
[11:27] Lias Leandros: do you mean Lexie Linden?
[11:27] Blondin Linden: here's what I think* I would want from an adult mentor group. I would want them to meet the standards of the the RHN but also have some very specific knowledge of how to verify accounts, how to search and find adult content, I'd want them to be able
[11:27] Ginette Pinazzo: relax..the proposal we bring next weekl will be semthing approachable...notjing too scary
[11:27] Blondin Linden: to point users in the right direction of content they are looking for.
[11:28] Silvanus Northman: I aggreee 100% Blondin
[11:28] Lias Leandros: and willnot include these mentors being aoart of a Linden group I hope because that is not appropriate
[11:28] Ginette Pinazzo: yes, thise are perfect goals
[11:28] Blondin Linden: IE, a new user comes in and is looking for an adult gay club. Well, I would hope that the mentor group would be able to point them in the right direction, maybe give some LM of popular locations

[11:30] Lias Leandros: instead of further ghetto-izing Zindra - I just think a mentor group (of peole thathave actualled mentored here before) to benamed MAINLAND MENTORS and just treat Zindra like any other mainland when helping people
[11:31] Blondin Linden: interesting Lias. Do you think all the continents of the mainland sould have a dedicated mentor group
[11:31] Blondin Linden: ?

[11:31] Lias Leandros: When speaking with approved RHNs - they seemed afraid to get into the Zindra issue because it may jeopordize their RHN status with Lexie Linden
[11:31] Lias Leandros: ALL RNs can go anywhere on the mainland
[11:31] Lias Leandros: there is no need to specify that these mentrs cme here


[11:32] Ginette Pinazzo: Blondin, what is thye action items? Canw ebring our proposal next week? much of this ground, including MGW involevem,tn is covered in it?

[11:34] Blondin Linden: next one we're gunna skip: Zindra Ambassador Program (ZAP): report from MGW
[11:34] Blondin Linden: for now
[11:34] Blondin Linden: b/c they arent here and we jsut kinda talked about it
[11:34] Blondin Linden: I'd like to roll that topic into the mentor one
[11:35] Blondin Linden: ;)

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6. Lias' Verification Kiosks at InfoHubs Approved per Blondin's Kiosk revisions


NOT DISCUSSED
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7.Zindra Ambassador Program (ZAP): report from MGW http://sites.google.com/site/zindrabusiness/home/zindra-ambassador-program

8. Lias' Guest Speakers Monday Nov. 1st Heaven Lacey , MGW (with invite also sent to Lexie Linden)- Colleen Criss
[11:38] Blondin Linden: so guest speakers come afterwards - at 12.? DO people think this is good?
[11:39] Blondin Linden: ok. Seems the afterwards have it.


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9. Lias' Yedboro Meetings: open to all to discuss events to take place within Zindra and market said events within Zindra This is NOT a proposal, this was an open invitation to all to recap Mondays mtgs. for those who could not attend due to RL work schedules.I do think it is a good idea though.-Colleen Criss

10. Secretary or No? Blondin

11. Forceme's Let's discuss Process of having Guest Speakers
Are GS a good idea with very limited time and we are there to meet with Blondin/Blondin meet with us? Who can invite a GS? Is an invited GS automatically approved. Can we have a process/list of inviting GS?

12. BED FAIR Proposal Lias http://bedfair.blogspot.com/2010/10/bed-fair-proposal-for-zindra-linden.html n/a new BED FAIR is developed to give the animated bed industry a showcase. The animated bed industry was effected when the adult search firewall went up and beds with sex animations included were told to move to Zindra or private adult sim locations. This event will help the animated bed industry content providers get some much needed exposure for their product lines. And also give people looking to furnish their homes a reason to explore Zindra's content providers for that purpose. Date of event: February 19th to February 26th

[11:40] Blondin Linden: ok. I only have about 10 mins max and I see Lias has some proposals at the bottom
[11:41] Blondin Linden: ok up first Bed Faire?
[11:43] Lias Leandros: lets do the snowman thing firt
[11:43] Blondin Linden: ok
[11:43] Counter Landfall: yeh

[11:43] Counter Landfall: before he melts
[11:43] Lias Leandros: becaus tht one s for December

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13. Naughty Snowman Proposal Zindra Alliance see group note in ZA
ZA wants to reserve the 4 Zindra Linden provided sims for the month of December for a creative event under the slogan "Naughty Snowman" culminating in a prize draw for the best installation shown. Embedded in the month is a week long mini festival "Santa unZipped". The exact terms for entry into the event for installations to be discussed. We ask that the sim texture is changed to snow for the event - this should be pretty easy for LDPW to provide.

[11:43] Ginette Pinazzo: I dotn know if thats supposed to be an Island event or not...is it? because island events are supposed to follow that specific proposal process........jjusta gentle reminder
[11:43] Lias Leandros: lol
[11:43] Lias Leandros: yorprpoal rocess isYOUR proposal process Gientte
[11:44] Counter Landfall: yep
[11:44] Lias Leandros: we have our ownhope you dont mnd
[11:44] Counter Landfall: it ie ven an event for you Ginette
[11:44] Ginette Pinazzo: no ..its the actual proposal process for the Isalnd events......well known by now, Id think
[11:44] Qie Niangao: looks like a proposal to me


[11:45] Blondin Linden: I think its a fine idea, only issue is, it's Novemeber and the Art MAze is already using those regions
[11:45] Blondin Linden: GInette - was there a timeline attached to your artmaze. I forgot


[11:47] Ginette Pinazzo: counter...yoru ideas are good....and you must realize you need a process to make this work, rightZ?
[11:47] colleen Criss: its beginning to look as if these islands are only to be used by you

[11:48] Blondin Linden: WEll, I agree there needs to be some sort of process around who is using them and when
[11:48] Ginette Pinazzo: its not 'reserving sim's...its publishinga proposal that peoepl can look over and then LL decides......with parameters....its to help

[11:48] colleen Criss: WHERE is the process posted???
[11:48] Lias Leandros: and none of us every agreed to them
[11:48] colleen Criss: is it a LL process? something we file with LL?
[11:49] Ginette Pinazzo: so you are vot9ing for anarchy? haha

[11:49] Blondin Linden: Counter , what if you used the Zindra region?

[11:49] Counter Landfall: sure can do that

[11:49] Lias Leandros: So Blondin you are imposing Ginette's rules on those islands and we all have to adhere to them?

[11:51] Blondin Linden: so Counter, here is an idea. Have the snowman building contest and ask people to build on their land. THen, when you are ready to judge, we'll make it so we can place them all out on ZIndra

[11:52] Blondin Linden: great. Thanks Counter. We'l figure it out. It could be as easy as creating a window where I turn build on for everyone


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14. Permanent bridge in the Distrel sim. Blondin/LDPW
It is proposed that LDPW build a permanent bridge across the water in the Distrel sim to make it easier to develop the events in this sim.

NOT DISCUSSED
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15.Zindra unZipped EXPO proposal Zindra Alliance
ZA wants to reserve the 4 Zindra Linden provided sims for the 2nd Zindra unZipped EXPO. The reservation period is for the month of April with event finished on Sunday May 1. The event itself is for a week, but 2-3 weeks for expo area development is needed before the event.

[11:53] Blondin Linden: when would you like the Unzipped Expo?
[11:54] Counter Landfall: ending May 1
[11:54] Counter Landfall: so sims needed for April
[11:54] Blondin Linden: so you'd need March, April and MaY? Or Feb March ApriL?
[11:54] Counter Landfall: only April
[11:54] Counter Landfall: only april
[11:55] Blondin Linden: oh ok.

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