[11:00] Silvanus Northman: hi Zada, hi Lias
[11:00] Zada Bury: greetings around
[11:00] Lias Leandros: hihi
[11:01] Counter Landfall: Hi Lias
[11:02] Lias Leandros: hey Counter
[11:03] Lias Leandros: .
[11:03] Silvanus Northman: meow Zada, my mouse I let at home today ; )
[11:03] Qie Niangao: greetings, Blondin
[11:03] Zada Bury: heya Blondin, welcome today
[11:03] Blondin Linden: hi
[11:03] Ginette Pinazzo: Hi Blondin
[11:03] Silvanus Northman: hi Blondin
[11:03] Counter Landfall: Hi Blondin
[11:03] Dancer Greenfield: Hi Blondin
[11:03] Ginette Pinazzo: if anyone celebrates Halloween heer, and received candy, feel free to pass the good chocolate over to me
[11:03] Clovis Luik: hey blondin
[11:03] Lias~ AKEYO_PowerAO_PricelessGirl-SloMo_HUD (v 1.9): Typing override: Off
[11:03] Lias~ AKEYO_PowerAO_PricelessGirl-SloMo_HUD (v 1.9): Sit anywhere: On
[11:03] Robby Pomeray: Hi Blondin
[11:04] Counter Landfall: wow, real chat lag here
[11:04] Blondin Linden: Hey all. Im afaird I'll have to cut out about 10 - 15 minutes early so we should get right to it
[11:04] Blondin Linden: :)
[11:04] Blondin Linden: Were thre members of the mentor group here who came to talk today?
[11:04] colleen Criss: scheduled are not here lets move on
[11:05] Blondin Linden: ok,
[11:05] Blondin Linden: first up: Flickr Slideshow Kiosk: report
[11:05] Ginette Pinazzo: ok...I have it....
[11:05] Blondin Linden: I'd gone through the pending
[11:05] Ginette Pinazzo: The information balls on the slideshow kiosk have been updated AND also have a new feature. When touched, they chat their lines in the language of your specific viewer. At this point, they do English, Spanish, Portugese, French, Japanese and German........
[11:05] Ginette Pinazzo: I am about to pass these latest versions of the kiosk to Blondin for placement at Oritz and Arapaima......
[11:06] Blondin Linden: thanks Ginette
[11:06] Silvanus Northman: please look at the name of the kiosks, Blondin, they are named for these SIMS, ty
[11:06] Blondin Linden: yep. I see that
[11:06] Blondin Linden: :)
[11:06] Ginette Pinazzo: As a next step, Blondin, I'd like to make time soon to have them placed and discuss placement at further Zindra locations.
[11:06] Ginette Pinazzo: thats all
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[11:07] Blondin Linden: ok. IM me later and we can set up a time to talk
[11:07] Ginette Pinazzo: oh...and one related question.....
[11:07] Blondin Linden: :)
[11:07] Blondin Linden: shoot
[11:07] Ginette Pinazzo: Blondin, the information ball that addresses age verification points to this wiki: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Linden_Lab_Official:How_to_become_verified_as_an_adult You mentioned that wiki needs to be updated? Do we need to add that item to the agenda as an action item?
[11:07] Blondin Linden: yes
[11:07] Blondin Linden: please do
[11:07] Ginette Pinazzo: ok...done
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[11:08] Blondin Linden: ok. Next item: Zindra Expo Group Charter: Update
[11:08] Counter Landfall listens
[11:08] Ginette Pinazzo: got it...
[11:08] Ginette Pinazzo: We're doing the website, getting early responses from artists, and deciding about the Landing Point situation on the Island.......
[11:08] Ginette Pinazzo: oops sorry! I mistepped!
[11:08] Ginette Pinazzo: (gives back the candy)
[11:09] Ginette Pinazzo: do you havge the link to the propsoed text, Blondin?
[11:10] Blondin Linden: https://sites.google.com/site/zindrabusiness/home/zindra-expo-group-charter
[11:10] Silvanus Northman: the web page, Blondin, on the top theres written that no changes are allowed?
[11:10] Blondin Linden: oh im sorry. let me take a look
[11:10] Ginette Pinazzo: just so you know I dotn work in a vaccuum..the following peoepl contributed to that text ...reviwed and provided content....a group effort.........
[11:10] Silvanus Northman: : )
[11:10] Counter Landfall: hehe - I am fgettign adult content warning from Google on that page!
[11:10] Ginette Pinazzo: Alicia Mureaux........ Bady Boozehound........ Dancer Greenfield........ Forceme Silverspar ........ Frizky Fairey........ JeZeBeLe Dagger........ Kaddan Yue........ Ratatosk Independent:........ Silvanus Northman........ Titania Bracken........ Weard Welty........ Zada Bury
[11:10] Counter Landfall: getting*
[11:11] Lias Leandros: GINTTE'S SUGGESTED TEXT FOR CHARTER....'
Zindra Expo is the Linden group for residents working together to benefit, promote and develop the 'adult continent' of Zindra. Let's hear your fresh and innovative ideas!
Weekly meetings: Monday 11AM Office Hours with Blondin Linden at the Bronlen Cafe.
http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Bronlen/128/224/74
Please join this collective and keep participating for the future of Zindra.
[11:11] You decline ~*Moka's Corner*~, GoldenBusiness Area2 (91, 155, 21) from A group member named KittyKatt Carlucci.
[11:11] Lias Leandros: Zexpo is not the resident group
[11:11] Ginette Pinazzo: its ot just my text..its agroup effort
[11:11] Silvanus Northman: I suggest a short text in 4 languages
[11:11] Lias Leandros: its a Linden created land management group
[11:11] Lias Leandros: as was told to us last Monday
[11:12] Counter Landfall: it was clearly stated last week it is an event group?
[11:12] Ginette Pinazzo: Blondin said he was open to new text ideas....this is what we have.....
[11:12] Silvanus Northman: yep
[11:12] Lias Leandros: New Ideas about a Linden owned land management group
[11:12] Counter Landfall: try to work within the statements of direction you get
[11:12] Lias Leandros: not new ideas as in making the Linden group a community group
[11:12] Ginette Pinazzo: do not misdirect ...I use both ears.....you shoudl too......you heard waht you wanted to hear only
[11:12] Ginette Pinazzo: Blondin? thoughts?
[11:12] Counter Landfall: does linden lab policy allow for community groups outside the program for it?
[11:13] colleen Criss: stop sniping
[11:13] Lias Leandros: Charter suggestion: The Linden Land Management Group for event space available to all Zindrans
[11:13] Lias Leandros: how's that ?
[11:13] Lias Leandros: a little closer to the truth
[11:13] Blondin Linden: I think it's a good start and agree that what we have now needs to be updated. I think it might be a bit broad for what I had in mind for the group. Let me take a look over the next few days and take a pass at what you guys have pulled together
[11:13] Ginette Pinazzo: ok Blondin
[11:14] Counter Landfall: Blondin, what exactly is the policy for Linden led community groups
[11:14] Counter Landfall: is not creating one totally bypassing your official program for this?
[11:14] Lias Leandros: adding the word 'community' to the Linden Land management group would be used to mislead the community
[11:15] Silvanus Northman: hmmmm I think on Zindra is all different, why not a Linden group too ;)
[11:15] Counter Landfall: and if you want such a group I will make you owner of ZA
[11:15] colleen Criss: why not do this , let gina create a Zindra community group
[11:15] Counter Landfall: no sweat for you
[11:15] Blondin Linden: I'll take a pass at it and we can discuss version 1.2 next week .
[11:15] Lias Leandros: all is not different - just the search firewall makes us different
[11:15] Lias Leandros: we are mainland
[11:15] Ginette Pinazzo: ok Blondin...soudns good
[11:15] Silvanus Northman: lol, Lias...
[11:15] Blondin Linden: next up: Podyan Sim
[11:15] Ginette Pinazzo: name switch verdict?
[11:16] Blondin Linden: Unfortuantely, no update. Those who I'm trying to get buy in from are indisposed on something. But I'm still on top of the issue.
[11:16] Ginette Pinazzo: ok
[11:17] Blondin Linden: Next up: Art Maze: Next Steps
[11:17] Blondin Linden: flying through this agenda! Velocuty!
[11:17] Blondin Linden: Velocity
[11:17] Ginette Pinazzo: ok...got it...
[11:17] Ginette Pinazzo: We're doing the website, getting early responses from artists, and deciding about the Landing Point situation on the Island.......
[11:17] Ginette Pinazzo: Blondin, did you get my email about next steps for the Art maze?
[11:17] Blondin Linden: yes. Did you get my response?
[11:17] Ginette Pinazzo: not yet!
[11:17] Blondin Linden: odd
[11:18] Blondin Linden: I switched your roles in the group so you should be able to get started
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[11:18] Ginette Pinazzo: ok..great
[11:18] Ginette Pinazzo: if your response was comprehensive, i dotn need to worry about it herte and now
[11:18] Blondin Linden: any other updates for the group?
[11:19] Ginette Pinazzo: for teh Art Maze...no I think that covers it
[11:19] Ginette Pinazzo: oh wait...
[11:19] Ginette Pinazzo: Opheliac ios here...the PR commmittee fpr the Maze
[11:19] Opheliac Lovenkraft waves
[11:19] Silvanus Northman waves to Opheliac
[11:20] Blondin Linden: PR huh. Thats a tough gig
[11:20] Ginette Pinazzo: well as team we will all work togetehr...no one will be 'alone'
[11:20] Blondin Linden: glad to hear :)
[11:20] Opheliac Lovenkraft: :)
[11:20] Blondin Linden: next up: Zindra Mentor Team: Brainstorming Report
[11:20] Ginette Pinazzo: got it..
[11:21] Blondin Linden: Is this on hold until the MGW (Mentors Gone Wild) people come ?
[11:21] Ginette Pinazzo: We had some amazing brainstorming so far. Team members are (so far): .... Ratatosk Independent........ BBQBill Odriscoll........ Moi Macarthur........ Heaven Lacey........ and myself as facillitator........
[11:21] Ginette Pinazzo: We've compiled our notes so far and have thought of some amazing ideas...ideas that really take a new, fresh approach to the problem of no real 'system' of mentoring going on in Zindra. .......
[11:21] Ginette Pinazzo: At this point, I'd advise that we present a comprehensive (but simple and do-able)_ proposal next week. I think we've sorted the solution into easy-to-do steps, and we will present our recommendation for a first step next week........
[11:22] Ginette Pinazzo: If you need a teaser: let's call it Zindra Help Vortex for now (working title)
[11:22] Ginette Pinazzo: FIN
[11:22] colleen Criss: Heaven Lacey is who I invited today from MGW
[11:22] Lias Leandros: any person can organoze people and help people
[11:22] Counter Landfall: vortex like you get sucked into?
[11:22] Ginette Pinazzo: I know...heaven's actually bee under theweather
[11:22] Lias Leandros: I think what Ginette wants is rols for thse helpers in te Zexpo group
[11:22] Lias Leandros: and that is innapropriate
[11:22] Ginette Pinazzo: PS... We received a wonderful letter from MGW about their participation in the past ZEXPO and a strong hope for participation in Zindra mentor programs of the future. http://www.zindracommunity.com
[11:23] Blondin Linden: before we hear it, I'd like to hear from the MGW people. I just dont want you to overextend yourself with stuff. I'd like to see how the MGW are organized and hear a bit more about their group. Ya know, why try to start a new group if there is one
[11:23] Blondin Linden: here already we can build on
[11:24] Ginette Pinazzo: have you talked with them yet Bondin?
[11:24] Blondin Linden: Perhaps, they, the MGW would like to execute on the ideas that you guys came up with
[11:24] Lias Leandros: MGW CHarter talks about sex and not much more - they need some serious revisions
[11:24] Silvanus Northman: isnt this a serious thing, lias?
[11:24] Ginette Pinazzo: well, the worki weve bene doing Blondin, relatyes to the entire RHN too...not just MGW......
[11:24] Blondin Linden: no I havent spoken with them yet. I don't know much about them to be honest. Thats why I'd like to hear more
[11:25] Qie Niangao: Sil, sex isn't only serious... for some of us, it's *tragic*
[11:26] Silvanus Northman: rigth, Qie, I agree
[11:26] Blondin Linden: maybe we can talk more about this next week. I think an Adult mentor group is a good idea. Now the issue is the best way to impliment
[11:26] Lias Leandros: Resident Help Networks don't peddle sex education
[11:26] Ginette Pinazzo: RHN has already exp[ressed interest in brainstorming with us...and we are doing it........I am only saying wev gotten a decent proposal together...and MGW is also involved in that
[11:27] colleen Criss: RHNs are about helping residents and edu not sex
[11:27] Lias Leandros: RHN is not an entity Ginette
[11:27] Silvanus Northman: oh Echo from colleen
[11:27] Lias Leandros: do you mean Lexie Linden?
[11:27] Blondin Linden: here's what I think* I would want from an adult mentor group. I would want them to meet the standards of the the RHN but also have some very specific knowledge of how to verify accounts, how to search and find adult content, I'd want them to be able
[11:27] Ginette Pinazzo: relax..the proposal we bring next weekl will be semthing approachable...notjing too scary
[11:27] Blondin Linden: to point users in the right direction of content they are looking for.
[11:28] Silvanus Northman: I aggreee 100% Blondin
[11:28] Lias Leandros: and willnot include these mentors being aoart of a Linden group I hope because that is not appropriate
[11:28] Ginette Pinazzo: yes, thise are perfect goals
[11:28] Blondin Linden: IE, a new user comes in and is looking for an adult gay club. Well, I would hope that the mentor group would be able to point them in the right direction, maybe give some LM of popular locations
[11:29] Silvanus Northman: exactly
[11:29] Blondin Linden: so, thats kinda what I have in mind.
[11:29] Counter Landfall: well, the search engine would do that much more efficient, yeh?
[11:29] colleen Criss: excellent ideas Blondin
[11:29] Silvanus Northman: when I came to Zindra last year I was a bit lost, yes
[11:29] Blondin Linden: what do you mean counter?
[11:29] Qie Niangao: it would be nice, however, if there were some "standard" set of directions to point them in... an Adult Destination Guide... so they aren't tempted to show too much "personal initiative"
[11:30] colleen Criss: and now you are found but have issues with some kind of echos Sil :)
[11:30] Blondin Linden: Search is one way to go about it, but nothing beats being held by the hand and led to where you want to go :)
[11:30] Lias Leandros: instead of further ghetto-izing Zindra - I just think a mentor group (of peole thathave actualled mentored here before) to benamed MAINLAND MENTORS and just treat Zindra like any other mainland when helping people
[11:30] Counter Landfall: I mean if you had some information about adult content in search where people could actually be directed at how to verify etc etc, that would be super efficient
[11:30] Silvanus Northman giggles to Colleen
[11:30] Counter Landfall: type in adult in search
[11:31] Blondin Linden: interesting Lias. Do you think all the continents of the mainland sould have a dedicated mentor group
[11:31] Blondin Linden: ?
[11:31] Lias Leandros: When speaking with approved RHNs - they seemed afraid to get into the Zindra issue because it may jeopordize their RHN status with Lexie Linden
[11:31] Lias Leandros: ALL RNs can go anywhere on the mainland
[11:31] Counter Landfall: if they did not have adult content enabled in the viewer, they could get to an info page you provided on how to proceed
[11:31] Lias Leandros: there is no need to specify that these mentrs cme here
[11:31] Counter Landfall: you dont need mentors for this
[11:32] Qie Niangao: btw... those mentors had better be prepared to handle queries for non-sexual Adult content from child AVs. Just sayin'.
[11:32] Lias Leandros: and the mentors in any group with Adult Verification enabled can help anyone in Zindra
[11:32] Silvanus Northman: serious and honorly they should be
[11:32] Lias Leandros: no need to make it some seperate special mentoring group
[11:32] Ginette Pinazzo: Blondin, what is thye action items? Canw ebring our proposal next week? much of this ground, including MGW involevem,tn is covered in it?
[11:32] Lias Leandros: espcialy since there arent many here that were ever mentors
[11:32] colleen Criss: the approved RHNs know how to deal with all questions from all avies and help is a chat IM away for those who do not know
[11:32] Counter Landfall: we are constructing a set of issues and solutions that should not even exist
[11:33] Counter Landfall: Linden Lab can fix this very easily
[11:33] colleen Criss: listens to Counter
[11:33] Ginette Pinazzo: all of this connversation is good but can be doen off-meeting time...this is time for specific proposals and reports
[11:33] Silvanus Northman: special for what Blondin said, ppl also come here to get experienced in special things and its serious for them....
[11:33] Lias Leandros: Gintte has anyone on your mentor lit of eople helping you ever been a Mentor in the Linden Program?
[11:33] Counter Landfall: everyone should get information about thsi on signup also
[11:33] Blondin Linden: yes, lets move on. Good start of the convo though
[11:33] Counter Landfall: very easily solved
[11:34] Blondin Linden: next one we're gunna skip: Zindra Ambassador Program (ZAP): report from MGW
[11:34] Blondin Linden: for now
[11:34] Blondin Linden: b/c they arent here and we jsut kinda talked about it
[11:34] Blondin Linden: I'd like to roll that topic into the mentor one
[11:35] Blondin Linden: ;)
[11:35] colleen Criss: good idea
[11:35] Counter Landfall: sound ssensible
[11:35] Lias Leandros: Ambasador program includes it being aoart of the Zexpo group
[11:35] Ginette Pinazzo: I would think thats a mistake, but fair enough
[11:35] Lias Leandros: and making some 'official' anouncemnts thru these people
[11:35] Ginette Pinazzo: its not related to mentorship at all
[11:35] Lias Leandros: nope
[11:35] Lias Leandros: its related to propoganda gang
[11:35] Blondin Linden: next one should be addressed even though our guest isnt here: Guest Speakers
[11:35] Ginette Pinazzo: Force had that one, is she here?
[11:36] Blondin Linden: do you think we need a process around iviting guest speakers?
[11:36] Ginette Pinazzo: I feel having guest speakers will eat up precious meeting time...mayeb AFTER meetimngs.....we just cant afford the time
[11:36] Counter Landfall: agreed Ginette
[11:36] Lias Leandros: Ithink we needprofessionals here flrthe meetings
[11:36] Counter Landfall: drop it
[11:36] Lias Leandros: then more people will attend to hear something new
[11:36] Counter Landfall: from the OH
[11:36] Counter Landfall: people can stay behind after
[11:36] Ginette Pinazzo: unless that presenter is actually givinga proposal, maybe...but we just dont have the time
[11:37] Lias Leandros: Like we can ak Lexie Linden to xcom and discuss RHNs
[11:37] colleen Criss: .
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[11:37] Ginette Pinazzo: peoepl seem to liek to stay after meetings, anywya...it seems.....not a bad idea to have guests then
[11:37] colleen Criss: she was invited today as well
[11:37] Lias Leandros: Ibliev e have te for guest speakers
[11:38] Lias Leandros: ther are 4 items from inette on the agenda for the last two months
[11:38] Lias Leandros: eventually those things will go away and the agenda will be more mangable
[11:38] Blondin Linden: so guest speakers come afterwards - at 12.? DO people think this is good?
[11:38] Lias Leandros: I say at 11AM
[11:38] Lias Leandros: as we agreed last week
[11:38] Clovis Luik: yes after the meeting
[11:38] Counter Landfall: after the meeting
[11:39] Ginette Pinazzo: Id sat agerwards is reasonable and keeps our productivity intact, such as it is
[11:39] Saxoni Fenstalker: I think after teh meeting as well
[11:39] Opheliac Lovenkraft: I apologise but I'm gonna have to excuse myself hope to see you all soon again :)
[11:39] Dancer Greenfield: Afterwards sounds better
[11:39] colleen Criss: doesnt care either way
[11:39] Ginette Pinazzo: take care Ophie
[11:39] Silvanus Northman: bye Ophelieac : )
[11:39] Counter Landfall: bye
[11:39] Clovis Luik: bye ophelia
[11:39] colleen Criss: take care O
[11:39] Blondin Linden: ok. Seems the afterwards have it.
[11:39] Lias Leandros: ok
[11:39] Opheliac Lovenkraft: :)
[11:39] Silvanus Northman: : )
[11:40] Lias Leandros: lets notchange it again anytime soon
[11:40] Blondin Linden: ok. I only have about 10 mins max and I see Lias has some proposals at the bottom
[11:40] Lias Leandros: the waffling is getting me dizzy
[11:40] Qie Niangao: (observation: Guest speakers may plan to come a little early, in case Blondin has to leave early, as today)
[11:40] Blondin Linden: should we go onto those?
[11:40] colleen Criss: they are on the agenda
[11:40] Counter Landfall: there are 3 from ZA too
[11:40] colleen Criss: they need addressed
[11:41] Blondin Linden: ok up first Bed Faire?
[11:41] Blondin Linden: http://bedfair.blogspot.com/2010/10/bed-fair-proposal-for-zindra-linden.html
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[11:42] Lias Leandros: all set then?
[11:42] Lias Leandros: .
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[11:42] Counter Landfall: sure, go to bed ...
[11:42] Lias Leandros: hhe
[11:43] Lias Leandros: lets do the snowman thing firt
[11:43] Blondin Linden: ok
[11:43] Counter Landfall: yeh
[11:43] Counter Landfall: before he melts
[11:43] Lias Leandros: becaus tht one s for December
[11:43] Ginette Pinazzo: I dotn know if thats supposed to be an Island event or not...is it? because island events are supposed to follow that specific proposal process........jjusta gentle reminder
[11:43] Lias Leandros: lol
[11:43] Lias Leandros: yorprpoal rocess isYOUR proposal process Gientte
[11:44] Counter Landfall: yep
[11:44] Lias Leandros: we have our ownhope you dont mnd
[11:44] Counter Landfall: it ie ven an event for you Ginette
[11:44] Ginette Pinazzo: no ..its the actual proposal process for the Isalnd events......well known by now, Id think
[11:44] Qie Niangao: looks like a proposal to me
[11:44] Counter Landfall: how about a femdom snowman
[11:44] Counter Landfall shrugs
[11:44] Lias Leandros: lol
[11:44] Dancer Greenfield: How many proposal processes are there?
[11:44] colleen Criss: where is the proposal process url ?
[11:44] Blondin Linden: back to topic
[11:45] Blondin Linden: I think its a fine idea, only issue is, it's Novemeber and the Art MAze is already using those regions
[11:45] Lias Leandros: they will look nice as Wnter Wonderland places
[11:45] Lias Leandros: Isnt it for December?
[11:45] Blondin Linden: GInette - was there a timeline attached to your artmaze. I forgot
[11:45] colleen Criss: how long is art maze?
[11:45] Ginette Pinazzo: yes..any event must have 3 ,months build up, at least! as per the process
[11:45] Lias Leandros: its just a build contest really
[11:45] Lias Leandros: lol
[11:45] Ginette Pinazzo: and committee members signed up
[11:45] Lias Leandros: Ginette easy there
[11:45] Counter Landfall: huh?
[11:45] colleen Criss: 3 months ??
[11:46] Counter Landfall: you gotta be kidding
[11:46] Lias Leandros: its an internal build ontst Ginette - there is no real set up
[11:46] Ginette Pinazzo: you need to reasd it....again.......
[11:46] Counter Landfall: how designed and approved such a process?
[11:46] Ginette Pinazzo: here we go again
[11:46] Lias Leandros: fols coeand bild asnowanno one is ollowingyur selfimpoed proedure Gintte
[11:46] Blondin Linden: it was. We've discussed it a while back
[11:46] Counter Landfall: if that is the process, jsut cancell all the ZA requests
[11:46] Counter Landfall: not interested
[11:46] colleen Criss: Ginette, here we go again is not a good answer to any of these questions
[11:46] Counter Landfall: sorry
[11:46] Qie Niangao: (plan B: backup the Zindra sim, revert and retexture it with snow, and use it for the Snowman thing, then revert it when it's all over.)
[11:47] Ginette Pinazzo: counter...yoru ideas are good....and you must realize you need a process to make this work, rightZ?
[11:47] colleen Criss: its beginning to look as if these islands are only to be used by you
[11:47] Counter Landfall: I need to resrve the sims
[11:47] Counter Landfall: and we can mostly take care of the rest
[11:47] Lias Leandros: your really going to tell Copunter he cant use the islands for a snowman build event because Ginette decided we need to apply for emty islands 3 months in advance?
[11:47] Clovis Luik: good idea Qie
[11:48] Blondin Linden: WEll, I agree there needs to be some sort of process around who is using them and when
[11:48] Ginette Pinazzo: its not 'reserving sim's...its publishinga proposal that peoepl can look over and then LL decides......with parameters....its to help ANYONE who follows the process
[11:48] Lias Leandros: no
[11:48] Lias Leandros: its YOUR guidelines
[11:48] Counter Landfall: ok Ginette
[11:48] Counter Landfall: count us out
[11:48] Lias Leandros: you developed them
[11:48] colleen Criss: WHERE is the process posted???
[11:48] Lias Leandros: and none of us every agreed to them
[11:48] colleen Criss: is it a LL process? something we file with LL?
[11:49] Ginette Pinazzo: so you are vot9ing for anarchy? haha
[11:49] Blondin Linden: Counter , what if you used the Zindra region?
[11:49] Counter Landfall: gosh, can we see the process diagram Ginette?
[11:49] Counter Landfall: sure can do that
[11:49] colleen Criss: no Gina you are
[11:49] Qie Niangao: One way or another, Zindra needs a winter holiday event. Otherwise losing an opportunity here (again).
[11:49] Counter Landfall: fine
[11:49] Lias Leandros: to tell Zindra they cant have a snowman contest on empty islands in December because of no real reason is silly
[11:49] colleen Criss: you have tired up 4 sioms for 3 months
[11:49] Counter Landfall: I'll take the Zindra region any day ;-)
[11:49] Saxoni Fenstalker: yeah, Zindra region should work really well
[11:49] Lias Leandros: So Blondin you are imposing Ginette's rules on those islands and we all have to adhere to them?
[11:50] Lias Leandros: this needs to be made clear
[11:50] Ginette Pinazzo: counter and lias...you both MOCEKD this Isalnd proposal for many many weeks...now its in motion and you want to cirumvent it anywya........please be sensible
[11:50] colleen Criss: actually Counter you will get more draw using Zindra then those sims I think
[11:50] Blondin Linden: Ginette took the time to draft a well thought out process for keeping order.
[11:50] Counter Landfall: yep
[11:50] Lias Leandros: And we never agreed upon it
[11:50] Counter Landfall: I am perfectly happy with that
[11:50] Ginette Pinazzo: and it was done for mall benefit.....all who take the time to doa thought-out proposal....the opposite of anarchy
[11:50] colleen Criss: those sims are best left to those who need them, and that is Gina
[11:50] Lias Leandros: just because it was removed from the agenda did not mean it was agreed upon
[11:51] Lias Leandros: and I have been to every meeting and I have every transcript
[11:51] Blondin Linden: so Counter, here is an idea. Have the snowman building contest and ask people to build on their land. THen, when you are ready to judge, we'll make it so we can place them all out on ZIndra
[11:51] Lias Leandros: wow
[11:51] Lias Leandros: .
[11:51] colleen Criss: Lias , Ill get the land for your bed expo let the sims alone
[11:51] Blondin Linden: how is that?
[11:51] Lias Leandros: unbelieveable
[11:51] Counter Landfall: ok, lets work on the detials for that
[11:51] Lias Leandros: because Ginette says so
[11:52] Counter Landfall: I am sure that could work
[11:52] colleen Criss: yes Lias because Gina says so, end of story let it go
[11:52] Saxoni Fenstalker: I can help Counter, if you need me to
[11:52] Counter Landfall: great
[11:52] Ginette Pinazzo: thats a great idea, Counter
[11:52] colleen Criss: Ill help as well Counter
[11:52] Blondin Linden: great. Thanks Counter. We'l figure it out. It could be as easy as creating a window where I turn build on for everyone
[11:52] Counter Landfall: wonderful
[11:52] Blondin Linden: WE'll figure it out
[11:52] Lias Leandros: Im sending a ticket in and asking Linden Lab what the policy they have surrounding the use of islands that will be empty in December
[11:52] Date Bar Infogiver: Picole Bade entered the defined area. (Adult Community Center <101.05370, 147.54760, 25.34013>)
[11:53] Counter Landfall: ok, next
[11:53] Counter Landfall: reserve a timeslot for unzipped?
[11:53] Blondin Linden: quickly bc I really need to go :)
[11:53] Counter Landfall: and we have time to follow the process for that
[11:53] Blondin Linden: when would you like the Unzipped Expo?
[11:53] Zada Bury: well then before you hide fast: "See you next week, Blonding, and thank oyu much"
[11:54] Counter Landfall: ending May 1
[11:54] Counter Landfall: so sims needed for April
[11:54] Blondin Linden: so you'd need March, April and MaY? Or Feb March ApriL?
[11:54] MystiTool HUD 1.0.21: Entering chat range: Forceme Silverspar (15m)
[11:54] Counter Landfall: only April
[11:54] Counter Landfall: only april
[11:55] Blondin Linden: oh ok.
[11:55] Ginette Pinazzo: we never settloed on an actua date for the Art Maze, but I imagne that will be throuigh Feb at this rate
[11:55] Blondin Linden: well plenty of time to pencil in the Unzipped expo.
[11:55] Lias Leandros: I proposed february
[11:55] Lias Leandros: so thats not available
[11:56] Ginette Pinazzo: follow the process and it all works out
[11:56] Blondin Linden: I have to jet
[11:56] Lias Leandros: and how can you not have a date and not follow the procedure you force on us
[11:56] Counter Landfall: so we have tentative agreement for april for unzipped, right?
[11:56] Blondin Linden: thanks all!
[11:56] Qie Niangao: thanks, Blondin
[11:56] Blondin Linden: until next weel
[11:56] Lias Leandros: and then just randomly choose the same dates I have?
[11:56] Blondin Linden: k
[11:56] Silvanus Northman: tc Blondin, ty : )=
[11:56] Ginette Pinazzo: ciao Blondin
[11:56] Saxoni Fenstalker: Bye Blondin
[11:56] Zada Bury: thanking you
[11:56] Dancer Greenfield: Bye Blondin
[11:56] Counter Landfall: bye
[11:56] Silvanus Northman: afk, need coffee -> black and strong
[11:57] MystiTool HUD 1.0.21: Entering chat range: Storyof Oh (14m)
[11:57] Lias Leandros: hey Storyof
[11:57] Storyof Oh: hi
[11:57] Ginette Pinazzo: take care everyone.....remember: the esteemed members of Zindra Expo group are praying for your souls.......hahah
[11:57] Ginette Pinazzo: Hi Story!
[11:58] Lias Leandros: so much for that procedure Ginette - you didnt even choose a event time
[11:58] Lias Leandros: and yours was approved
[11:58] Lias Leandros: so I guess that procedure doesnt apply toyou
[11:58] Ginette Pinazzo: ciao
[11:58] Lias Leandros: ciao
[11:58] Lias Leandros: unbeliveable
[11:58] Lias~ AKEYO_PowerAO_PricelessGirl-SloMo_HUD (v 1.9): Sit anywhere: Off
[12:00] Zada Bury: welll ... have to do some things... see you next week or sunday ... or when we will see
[12:00] Qie Niangao: fwiw, I can think of worse outcomes than to have one-month-turnaround events managed by one set of residents on one sim, and 3-month-turnaround events managed by another set on other sims.
[12:00] Lias Leandros: sounds dangerous
[12:00] colleen Criss: absolutely correct
[12:00] Zada Bury: have somewho think about NOT use all 4 sims same time?
[12:01] Lias Leandros: Ginette wont allow it Zada
[12:01] Zada Bury: you can do on each sim a different event with prepareing ... or 2 sims only for 1 event
[12:01] Lias Leandros: Zada that would mean 4 people with ideas can have mini events together
[12:01] Lias Leandros: thats a good plan
[12:01] Qie Niangao: but let's face it, the Zindra sim is still a landing point in search of content, so... use it for those "mini" events
[12:01] Counter Landfall: sure there can be full flexibility in utilizing the sims
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