[10:59] Silvanus Luckstone: Hi All
[10:59] Ginette Pinazzo: Hi Silva
[10:59] Silvanus Luckstone: : ) hi Gina : )
[10:59] Zada Bury: here there over ... ^_^
[11:00] Counter Landfall: to get a calarifcation over that
[11:00] Counter Landfall: well, the purpose of the Expo group is rather important, is it not?
[11:00] Ginette Pinazzo: normally, yes Force... though 'old business' traditionally all goes befroe 'new buusiness'
[11:00] Counter Landfall: He needs to clarify if it is a community group or not
[11:00] Ginette Pinazzo: Id say its important, yes counter...as are many otehr topics......we must avoid chaos, no?
[11:00] Counter Landfall: no
[11:01] Counter Landfall: the cahos coems from that uncertainty
[11:01] Zada Bury: *murrs to Silvanus* you try to push me from the "most weird appearance" on theese meetings?
[11:01] Lias Leandros: we have an agenda we worked on all week while Blondin logged on thsimorning and quickly jotted some notes
[11:01] Silvanus Luckstone: lol sry ; )
[11:01] Zada Bury: Heya Blondin, Welcome. ^_^
[11:01] Ginette Pinazzo: Hi Blondin
[11:01] Silvanus Luckstone: Hi Blondin
[11:01] Counter Landfall: Hi Blondin
[11:01] Forceme Silverspar: Hi Blondin
[11:01] Blondin Linden: hello
[11:02] Qie Niangao wakes up. "Hi folks."
[11:02] Silvanus Luckstone: mornin Qie
[11:02] Zada Bury: Monrning, Qie
[11:02] Blondin Linden: i cleaned up the wiki agenda so take a look. I'd like to keep it in this simple format going forward
[11:02] Blondin Linden: https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Blondin_Linden%27s_Zindra_Office_Hour_Agenda
[11:03] Counter Landfall: great
[11:03] Ginette Pinazzo: fabulous
[11:03] Forceme Silverspar: Looks good.
[11:03] Zada Bury: looks nice ordered
[11:03] Counter Landfall: I can I ask that you deal with the purpose of the Expo group question first on the ganda?
[11:03] Lias Leandros: It is simple and inclusive at the bottom where verything every wanted to discuss is added
[11:03] Blondin Linden: so looks like there's a lot to cover so lets start at the top and work out way down
[11:03] Counter Landfall: agenda*
[11:03] Lias Leandros: your agenda you quickly threw together this monring is not inclsive
[11:03] MystiTool HUD 1.0.21: Entering chat range: Toran Babenco (14m)
[11:04] Blondin Linden: Reminder to Update the Zindra Flickr Group Pool
[11:04] Ginette Pinazzo: teh first item shoudl be a quick one
[11:04] MystiTool HUD 1.0.21: Entering chat range: colleen Criss (14m)
[11:04] Zada Bury: fine
[11:04] Blondin Linden: I'm sure you all have some great pics of Zindra - feel free to go and add them :)
[11:04] Silvanus Luckstone: yes, I cant use the Flickr group as Austrian/German
[11:04] Lias Leandros: There are 3 questions pending about the Flickr slideshow
[11:04] Counter Landfall: I can I ask that you deal with the purpose of the Expo group question first on the agenda?
[11:04] Zada Bury: *mumbles* I finnaly should make a flickr-account to log into that group
[11:04] Silvanus Luckstone: no Adult possible for a lot of European and SE-Asian
[11:04] Forceme Silverspar: Slide show is number 2 - we ain't there yet.
[11:05] Blondin Linden: lets wait Counter until the end, we'll adress it
[11:05] Zada Bury: ok ... then I can forget to use flickr
[11:05] Ginette Pinazzo: apparently so!
[11:05] Ginette Pinazzo: yes but the Pool itself needs to be updated.........whats the chance of that Blondin?
[11:05] Blondin Linden: let me take a quick look
[11:06] Lias Leandros: a. What Item is delivered upon touching the slideshow?
[11:06] Silvanus Luckstone: as long as the group is Adult rated, a lot of residents are not able to use it
[11:06] Forceme Silverspar: Shh Lias.
[11:07] Forceme Silverspar: We are on number 1 - Update to Flickr Group pool.
[11:07] Silvanus Luckstone: same 4 Toran, we are still at the Flickr pool
[11:07] Toran Babenco: same ?> shhhhh?
[11:07] Silvanus Luckstone: lol
[11:07] Toran Babenco: DON'T shhhhh me :)
[11:07] Toran Babenco: thank you
[11:07] Forceme Silverspar grins.
[11:07] Silvanus Luckstone: never...
[11:07] Toran Babenco: What Item is delivered upon touching the slideshow?
[11:07] Ginette Pinazzo: it takes Blondin tiem because he must put done his tuna sandwich whiel he updates thye Flickr Pool
[11:07] Toran Babenco: kewl :) thanks again
[11:07] Zada Bury: "bbsssst, Toran"?
[11:08] Lias Leandros: d. Why does the Flickr slide show kiosks only show photos from Ginettes flickr and why does IT not give age verification info and an LM for a Zindra Gateway? - colleen Criss
[11:08] Forceme Silverspar: Still on number 1, Lias.
[11:09] Forceme Silverspar: We're waiting for Blondin to check something.
[11:09] Toran Babenco: who is the moderator of this meeting please?
[11:09] Blondin Linden: ok. Not sure if I did it right. Ill take a look after the meeting
[11:09] Ginette Pinazzo: (works on nails)
[11:09] MystiTool HUD 1.0.21: Entering chat range: Vyktor Drammond (15m)
[11:09] Silvanus Luckstone: hi vyktor
[11:09] Ginette Pinazzo: if you refersh the pool, it should work
[11:09] Zada Bury: mm .. Lias ... look at this agenda here, I have prefare there something for you: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Blondin_Linden%27s_Zindra_Office_Hour_Agenda (It's named an internet-link)
[11:09] Blondin Linden: Some were a little explict that Ill prob want to leave in the leave in there but I've have a closer look later
[11:09] Blondin Linden: lets move onto #2
[11:10] Blondin Linden: Zindra Flickr Slideshow Kiosk Information Balls
[11:10] Zada Bury: that would be then Lias' "a"
[11:10] Ginette Pinazzo: hopefully, enough peoepl looked at the Flickr Slideshow kiosk and checked the chat messages those infoballs give out.,,this topic refers to that.......
[11:10] Blondin Linden: Ginette, did you want to speak to this?
[11:10] Blondin Linden: Giving out better age-verify information? / Giving out an LM to a 'Zindra Gateway'?
[11:10] Ginette Pinazzo: yes...there are 3 balls.....
[11:11] Ginette Pinazzo: 1. about the slideshow itself and hot to get involved in that
[11:11] Ginette Pinazzo: 2. about age verifying (upgrading your SL experience)
[11:11] Ginette Pinazzo: and 3. about getting involved in Zindra initiatves (these meetings etc)
[11:11] Forceme Silverspar: Hmm where do I get balls from?
[11:11] Blondin Linden: / they are attached to the slideshow viewer
[11:11] Ginette Pinazzo: teh balls are the 3 big balls on the console of the kiosk
[11:11] Forceme Silverspar: Arh right thanks.
[11:11] Ginette Pinazzo: theer are 2 issues that came up......
[11:11] Ginette Pinazzo: 1. can the diurections to age verify point to soemthing mreo specific?
[11:12] Ginette Pinazzo: here is what thta ball says now.....
[11:12] Ginette Pinazzo: Upgrade Your SL Experience: Zindra is the name of SL's 'Adult Continent'..... thousands of places to explore, shop, experience and learn in the most free and liberating environment in Second Life. Get age-verified today and Explore Zindra!
[11:12] Ginette Pinazzo: so...is there a good, 'official' linl, slurl or anything we can have there too? as a 'Call To Action?'
[11:12] Forceme Silverspar: Can it point to the URL that deals with that?
[11:13] Forceme Silverspar: SOunds sensible to me.
[11:13] Lias Leandros: The sldeshowhas adult content in it - so only peopel who are adult verified ca see it - so why does it need ageverification ?
[11:14] Forceme Silverspar: A LL URL that expalins verification is not Adult content.
[11:14] colleen Criss: *note* it does not direct them on HOW* as a member of 2 RHNs I field the HOW often thru out the day, across the grid.
[11:14] Zada Bury: wasn't the slideshow getting pictures from the internet?
[11:14] Ginette Pinazzo: we mjust allow for the possibility that peoepl will still need to know age-verification info
[11:14] Wyn Nitely: A notecard people could hand out would be very helpful.
[11:14] Silvanus Luckstone: this was point 1, Zada : )
[11:14] Blondin Linden: um. I think the best best would be the wiki page
[11:14] Blondin Linden: looking for it
[11:14] Ginette Pinazzo: so does anyone knows the single best 'one stop' link? wiki page...ok
[11:14] Zada Bury: nope, Sli ... was the slideshow-vendort not use these pictures, too?
[11:14] Lias Leandros: you dont need age verification if you are already on adult land
[11:15] Wyn Nitely: But you might need it to give to friends who aren't verified yet.
[11:15] Lias Leandros: I offer ageverification ina PGMainland sim named Nepessig - I cannot have anadult Flickr slideshow there
[11:15] Blondin Linden: Actually
[11:15] Blondin Linden: :(
[11:15] Blondin Linden: fail
[11:15] Krystal Devonshire: i give this to age verify http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Age_verification
[11:15] Blondin Linden: The wiki page is out of date
[11:15] Blondin Linden: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Linden_Lab_Official:How_to_become_verified_as_an_adult
[11:15] Blondin Linden: I think the directs are still 1.23 based
[11:15] Counter Landfall: same in Concinna (Mature)
[11:15] Lias Leandros: Thanks Krystal
[11:15] Silvanus Luckstone: well Lias I dont think that PG is the right place for Zindra advertises as you do
[11:15] Lias Leandros: I agree non verified need the info
[11:15] Forceme Silverspar: Zindra Flickr is NOT ADULT content - Blondin just said so.
[11:16] Lias Leandros: well exactly Sil
[11:16] Lias Leandros: thats why we have to make it appropriate
[11:16] Ginette Pinazzo: wait..Krytsal....whats was yours? is that just as good as Blondin';s?
[11:16] Krystal Devonshire: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Age_verification
[11:16] colleen Criss: PG can use the kiosk I made its plain text period
[11:16] Krystal Devonshire: links to the website
[11:16] Lias Leandros: agreed Collen
[11:16] Silvanus Luckstone: Lias I meant that to explain the Zindra on PG is not right, soon we have the Teens here ^^
[11:16] Zada Bury: I think, the first pictures which was used for the Zexpo and ZindraUnzipped and so on was sho, it's possible to make sensual pictures which are NOT adlut.
[11:16] Lias Leandros: but that slideshow cant be used outside of Zindra
[11:16] Zada Bury: was showing *
[11:17] colleen Criss: no that i why I did not include that
[11:17] Lias Leandros: teens cant adult verify unless they falsify info. There are teens and adults in PG land Sil
[11:17] Silvanus Luckstone: I already made a lot of PG rateable pics, no worry, I made about 2000 pics the last week
[11:17] Forceme Silverspar: Woohoo great stuff.
[11:17] Silvanus Luckstone: well and Teens need to be protected : ) lias
[11:18] Blondin Linden: ok, just bringing this back around to the orginal question. GInettte, you're looking for a better place to point people to learn how to verify yes?
[11:18] Lias Leandros: Sil its supposeto eveyone's content - not jut yours
[11:18] colleen Criss: true so going to that wiki to verify will do teens NO good huh
[11:18] Ginette Pinazzo: yes Blondin.........soemthing 'official';...an LL site, etc
[11:18] Lias Leandros: but lets not get stuck on this we can re-visit it next week - ts already 20 after Eleven
[11:18] Forceme Silverspar: Teens can access the LL URL on how to verify. It's not an issue.
[11:18] Blondin Linden: I'd say - for now, the best thing is the wiki. Which is unfortunate b/c it's a bit out of date
[11:18] Counter Landfall: information on signup and an email to all current residents will do it
[11:18] Blondin Linden: Ill ask around and see if I can get it updated
[11:18] Blondin Linden: ok lets move onto the 3rd topic
[11:19] colleen Criss: the wiki verification page IS official
[11:19] Blondin Linden: Podyan Sim
[11:19] Ginette Pinazzo: ok blondin...THAT updating might be an action item for you on next agenda...meanwhiel, we;ll rewrite the info ball
[11:19] Ginette Pinazzo: wait...not the info ball abotu a gateway is still on number 2
[11:19] Blondin Linden: So I think I took care of most of the things that Sil asked me too
[11:20] Silvanus Luckstone: ty : )
[11:20] Blondin Linden: some things were beyonbd my power like the video kisok having you sign into your account on the web page
[11:20] Ginette Pinazzo: colleen wanted to know if the 3rd ball (how to get involved) could also point to a 'gateway'...I wanst sure we eevn had out official gateway dsorted out so thats why there is no link like that yet
[11:20] Blondin Linden: oops, did I jump ahead
[11:20] Blondin Linden: sorry
[11:21] colleen Criss: there is nothing on that flickr site that will attract anyone to Zindra
[11:21] Blondin Linden: we don't really have a gateway
[11:21] Lias Leandros: but lets get on with the agenda
[11:21] Ginette Pinazzo: if we ever did settle on Podyan/Sim/whatever as a central gateway, that could be there, I guess
[11:21] Lias Leandros: omg
[11:22] VooDoo Greeter: Jara Rasa entered the defined area. (Bear <217.91100,>)
[11:22] Blondin Linden: Colleen, you had mentioned soemthing about the Resident Help Network groups.
[11:22] colleen Criss: yes sorely needed here on zindrqa actively
[11:22] colleen Criss: Wyn and Krys arew both from NCI
[11:23] Wyn Nitely: Hi
[11:23] Blondin Linden: where does the GET INVOLVED button point people now?
[11:23] colleen Criss: I am also with NCI and Mental mentors
[11:23] Zada Bury: heya and welcome
[11:23] colleen Criss: it doesnt
[11:23] MystiTool HUD 1.0.21: Entering chat range: Kourtney Namori (19m)
[11:23] Ginette Pinazzo: the Get Involved text as of now says the following:
[11:23] Ginette Pinazzo: Get Involved in the Future: The future of SL means more connections and more involvement from residences, businesses and communities. Being on Zindra has many benefits and being part of growth is one of them! Join the Zindra Expo group (use search to find the Group) if you are age-verfiied and are a resident or business on Zindra. Group URL: http://world.secondlife.com/group/e5b52e79-818c-fcea-699b-fa1b7910d124 There are weekly meetings and many ways for you to get involved!
[11:23] Ginette Pinazzo: (its a bit wordy)
[11:24] Lias Leandros: are we still on the picture show that only adult verified will see?
[11:25] Blondin Linden: yes, for just another minute
[11:25] colleen Criss: get involved should NOT point to any ONE group. unless it is strictly a community group
[11:25] Lias Leandros: exactly
[11:25] colleen Criss: Zexpo is an Event group ?
[11:25] Ginette Pinazzo: its a Linden grouip....tbhats the one place it shoudo point to
[11:25] colleen Criss: so what
[11:25] Kourtney Namori: msg me if u need ur cock sucked
[11:25] colleen Criss: oh how grown
[11:25] Counter Landfall: yes, so what (back to the question on the purpose of the expo group)
[11:25] Forceme Silverspar splutters.
[11:26] Blondin Linden: Lexie was the one who ran the RHN . I think it's on hold atm but she would be a good person to bug about that. Maybe we can get an officail RHN group centered around Zindra
[11:26] Lias Leandros: Thats why we invited NCI
[11:26] Lias Leandros: hello?
[11:26] colleen Criss: if Zxepo is a community group strictly I have no issue with it be pointed there but I was told it was an event group and the charter reads as such
[11:26] Ginette Pinazzo: stick to agenda pl;ease, everyone
[11:26] colleen Criss: we are on the agenda
[11:27] colleen Criss: Im answring Blondin
[11:27] Zada Bury: and we slow should go ahead with and not try to much slide to the sides
[11:27] colleen Criss: Ive spoke with her Blondin
[11:27] colleen Criss: she will be here next week
[11:27] Forceme Silverspar: Zindra Expo is the only community group. Unlike Zindra Alliance.
[11:27] Blondin Linden: who Colleen? Lexie?
[11:27] colleen Criss: Mentors Gone Wild
[11:27] Lias Leandros: Expo is not a community group
[11:27] Lias Leandros: its a commercial booth group
[11:28] colleen Criss: zexpo reads as an event group
[11:28] Counter Landfall: it does
[11:28] Lias Leandros: it is an event group
[11:28] Ginette Pinazzo: thje nexpo group chyattre is a greta topic...is jumping far ahead..ahem
[11:28] Forceme Silverspar: It's more of a community group than ZA which is a private group. Zindra Expo is created by LL.
[11:28] Blondin Linden: ok. I'm moving onto the next topic.
[11:28] Blondin Linden: Ready ?!
[11:28] Forceme Silverspar: Where are we on agenda?
[11:28] Lias Leandros: well its 11:30 and we have talked about a adult slideshow for 25 minutes
[11:28] Blondin Linden: Art Maze: responses from LL
[11:28] Forceme Silverspar: Yes!
[11:29] colleen Criss: ZA is NOT pvt it is open enroll to all zindrians
[11:29] Ginette Pinazzo: yes...regarding Podyand and the glitches, Blondin...are any outsnading? or is it considered 'done'?
[11:29] Zada Bury: yes ... next topic "Podyan Sim"
[11:29] Lias Leandros: Ok Ginette has 4 personal projects on the agenda
[11:29] Lias Leandros: duly noted
[11:29] colleen Criss: lets just cover Ginettes so we can not waste our day
[11:29] Ginette Pinazzo: they ar eprojects I workd on with many peoepl...team projects......shall we continue
[11:29] Zada Bury: (( *thumbs up* nice work Gin ... 4 topics ... you was busy, or? ))
[11:30] Forceme Silverspar: Yes.
[11:30] colleen Criss: bored?
[11:30] Forceme Silverspar: Please carry on Ginette.
[11:30] Blondin Linden: I say lets go for it. with the caveat that the content not be too explict. I just want the maze to be of general interest to appeal to other people outside of Zindra. THere can be nudity and adult themes, but I think it can be done in a tasteful, non XXX kinda way. Does that make any sense?
[11:30] Toran Babenco: yes, everyone else , sit quiet , put things to the side and let's work on Ginette's topics :)
[11:30] Silvanus Luckstone: YES
[11:30] colleen Criss: excellent Blondin !!
[11:30] Ginette Pinazzo: I agree Blondin (though you totally jumped topics)
[11:31] Forceme Silverspar: Woohoo to tasteful nudity!
[11:31] Lias Leandros: so the maze will include people outside of zindra
[11:31] Zada Bury: At least she have develope some topics for events, which make someting read about Zindra.
[11:31] Lias Leandros: that means the maze doors will open toplaces outside of zindra
[11:31] You decline WELLCOME TO TRAFFIC INJECTION from A group member named jamira Aurbierre.
[11:31] colleen Criss: many did develop them they were removed
[11:31] colleen Criss: per her wishes
[11:31] Lias Leandros: So its a marketing event for anyone in Second Life
[11:31] Toran Babenco: others were developed but removed
[11:31] Silvanus Luckstone: art-event
[11:32] Ginette Pinazzo: if anyone still needs rto read about the Art Maze tio fully underdtand it, the proposal will prpobably answer most of your questions..id be happy to anser mroe off meeting time
[11:32] Lias Leandros: its a art event open to anyone in Secopnd Life to market amy parcel in Second Life
[11:32] Forceme Silverspar: amy parcel?
[11:32] Silvanus Luckstone: lias you are too funny
[11:32] colleen Criss: to attract from all over the grid?
[11:32] Lias Leandros: Its a question Sil
[11:32] Lias Leandros: and I hear the answer being YES
[11:32] Ginette Pinazzo: any artist/builder who is up for it, can be part of this exhibit....its an art exhibit after all
[11:32] Lias Leandros: So its not really a ZIndra event
[11:33] Ginette Pinazzo: it an event on thye Zindra expo msiland......its a zindra hosted event
[11:33] Lias Leandros: and this commiteee chosen will choose who participated
[11:33] Lias Leandros: so its not a community event
[11:33] Lias Leandros: next agenda item
[11:33] Ginette Pinazzo: anyoen who wants to be on the team for this event simply can contact me....we have about 8 so9 far....looking for more
[11:33] Blondin Linden: next up: Zindra Mentor Team
[11:33] Lias Leandros: Ginette's Mentor Team
[11:33] colleen Criss: not important Lias , trust me ....
[11:33] Counter Landfall: Zindra hosted?? what does that mean. there are many such events daily
[11:33] Lias Leandros: or Ginettes Brainstorming Team
[11:34] Blondin Linden: http://sites.google.com/site/zindrabusiness/home/zindra-mentor-team
[11:34] Ginette Pinazzo: Blondin...did you purposefull avoid the Podyan name switch topic..or did I miss it?
[11:34] colleen Criss: there are RHNs that ae already here
[11:34] Lias Leandros: It willjust stay on the agenda until addressed
[11:34] Forceme Silverspar: I think it's called ZIndra Mentor team - not - Ginnette's Mentor Team.
[11:34] Lias Leandros: Ginette Brainstorm team and Mentor team
[11:34] Lias Leandros: lets get these through the agenda
[11:35] Angeline Ulrik: *smiles and whispers to no one in particular* Does lias enjoy disrupting these meetings or is it something everyone enjoys because she's so poor at it?
[11:35] Ginette Pinazzo: thats not the na,e of the topics...but anyway...Podyan namwe switchZ? anyone?
[11:35] Forceme Silverspar: No Lias, It's called Zindra Mentor Team - quit jabbing the knife in, it's not attractive.
[11:35] Lias Leandros: it doesnt matetr what its called
[11:35] Lias Leandros: lets get thru this stuff
[11:35] Blondin Linden: oh yeah. No feedback on it internally. I've gotten messages from people both for and against it. I'll have to keep you updated but nothing to report yet
[11:36] Zada Bury: somehow I miss the part of name-switching, too
[11:36] Ginette Pinazzo: ok Blondin
[11:36] colleen Criss: how is she disrupting , she cant get heard anyhow and her ideas were squashed and this IS a OH MTG she has a right to ask what she wants
[11:36] Forceme Silverspar: colleen, you will wake up soon enough... what's next on agenda?
[11:36] Angeline Ulrik: *smiles and watches the knives change diection*
[11:36] Zada Bury: ah, well ... then we will wait an other week, Blondi
[11:36] Ginette Pinazzo: ok the Mentor team, I mentioned last week....all this is is an announcement we are meeting through the week...its a Brainstorming tyeam........to come up with ideas...freely...about hjow to improve the situation on Zindra with Mentors (existing or new)
[11:36] Zada Bury: Blondin*
[11:37] colleen Criss: LOL trust me I know smoke and mirrors and BS hen I see it and Im looking at it
[11:37] Lias Leandros: Blondin why do you allow Forcemem to tell people to sush and make nasty perosnal attacks here?
[11:37] Toran Babenco: amen Lias :)
[11:37] Ginette Pinazzo: \we have about 5 or 6 peoepl on this Brainstorming team so far....I would ask for mroe to join, please.......it will be fun and prooductive
[11:37] Lias Leandros: You dont have to be rude to her to talk to her in IMs and make it stop
[11:37] colleen Criss: no one takes her serious anyhow let it go if its all shes got let her use it
[11:38] Silvanus Luckstone: I think the Mentor and Ambassador project could be done in one, to have the mentors controlled
[11:38] Blondin Linden: Ginette, you should reach out to Mentors Gone WIld group and see if they already have meetings like this or if they would like to participate
[11:38] Lias Leandros: exactly
[11:38] Lias Leandros: we have Mentors gone wild coming next week
[11:38] Ginette Pinazzo: I have talked with MGW and at least one of their members is already agreed to talk about ideas
[11:38] colleen Criss: MGW doest appear as approved RHN by LLs tho
[11:38] Zada Bury: maybe this is something, where the resident-netowrc .. N... (sorry, I ever forget the name) also can be maybe help or is intersting to be involved?
[11:38] Lias Leandros: we can get them approved once the list opens again
[11:39] Blondin Linden: Colleen, I could try and work with Lexie on getting them approved if they wanted to
[11:39] Ginette Pinazzo: Silva...that combinning idea is interesting...join the team and rememebr that one!
[11:39] colleen Criss: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Resident_Help_Network_Portal
[11:39] Silvanus Luckstone: ok : )
[11:39] colleen Criss: these are recognized by LLs
[11:39] colleen Criss: as RHN's
[11:39] colleen Criss: I think they do Blondin
[11:39] colleen Criss: she seemed to anyhow
[11:39] Ginette Pinazzo: good info, Colleen
[11:39] Blondin Linden: but Lias is right, it;s sort of on hold at the moment. But I can see what lexie says. As long as the MGW group meets the key criteria, I bet we can sneak them in
[11:39] Lias Leandros: 20 minutes left
[11:39] Counter Landfall: I think it is a good idea to work through the official mentor program and not invent something on the side
[11:40] Ginette Pinazzo: I agree Counter, if it cvan be doenm. taht woudld lower stress
[11:40] Lias Leandros: its not that easy to cretae something like that
[11:40] colleen Criss: ty Blondin
[11:40] colleen Criss: ty Counter
[11:40] Lias Leandros: and Ginette homnestly and without sarcasm - you cant do all of those projects at the same time
[11:40] Ginette Pinazzo: I am not doing them all at the same time...I workm in teams
[11:41] Lias Leandros: you cant run 4 teams of major projects at the same time
[11:41] colleen Criss: why do we not know who these teams are?
[11:41] Ginette Pinazzo: forming brainstorming teams is one good way to get ideas going outside of meeting time, and results in proposals
[11:41] colleen Criss: shouldnt we be aware of the names?
[11:41] Lias Leandros: especially since most of that stuff you have never done before
[11:41] colleen Criss: after all its *community* yes?
[11:41] Counter Landfall: I have no ideas who they are
[11:41] colleen Criss: should nt it transparent?
[11:41] Blondin Linden: lets move onto the next topic
[11:41] Lias Leandros: lol
[11:41] Blondin Linden: Age Verification Kiosks at InfoHubs
[11:41] Forceme Silverspar: Yes let's.
[11:41] Ginette Pinazzo: Blondin...did an action items come out of this topic?
[11:41] Lias Leandros: haha
[11:41] Lias Leandros: action team?
[11:41] Blondin Linden: yeah GInette, Il talk to lexie about the group
[11:41] Counter Landfall: swat team
[11:42] Lias Leandros: never heard of them
[11:42] Ginette Pinazzo: ok Blondin
[11:42] Lias Leandros: Kiosks
[11:42] Lias Leandros: in mainland infohubs
[11:42] Blondin Linden: was this propsed by Lias?
[11:42] Lias Leandros: Coleen made one
[11:42] Blondin Linden: a kiosk?
[11:42] Lias Leandros: I proposed it in February
[11:42] colleen Criss: passed it to Blondiin
[11:42] colleen Criss: this is rez'd
[11:42] Lias Leandros: Coleeen revived it
[11:42] colleen Criss: 4 prims
[11:42] Lias Leandros: and she made the kiosk
[11:42] colleen Criss: 1 script
[11:42] Lias Leandros: you answered my ticket Blondin
[11:43] Lias Leandros: and said yes to un-networlked kiosks
[11:43] Forceme Silverspar: Can it be 1 prim?
[11:43] Lias Leandros: I think its 3
[11:43] colleen Criss: anything can be one prim
[11:43] Silvanus Luckstone: 4
[11:43] Forceme Silverspar: So we can have th kiosk one prim too then?
[11:43] Blondin Linden: this would be great if the wiki page was updated (not your fault)
[11:43] Zada Bury: it's 4, but maybe can be optimised
[11:43] Blondin Linden: :)
[11:43] Ginette Pinazzo: is there a version we cvan see during the week, someplace?
[11:44] Lias Leandros: Ill put one at my infohub
[11:44] Lias Leandros: Ill send the slurl
[11:44] colleen Criss: didnt know it had to be one prim but Ill make it one prim id Blondin wants that
[11:44] Forceme Silverspar: Can't it be on public land somewhere?
[11:44] Lias Leandros: thanks colleen
[11:44] colleen Criss: Ill give you this one
[11:44] colleen Criss: who wants it?
[11:44] Lias Leandros: 3 minute agenda item - thats sweet
[11:44] Lias Leandros: pass to me and Blondin please
[11:44] colleen Criss: did
[11:44] Lias Leandros: thanks
[11:44] Forceme Silverspar: Me please, and if you make a 1 prim one, I would like that oo please.
[11:45] Lias Leandros: any questions about the adult verification Kiosk
[11:45] Blondin Linden: I'm ok with 4 prims :) If I was to give feedback, I'd change the texture to read: Zindra: The Adult Continent Get Age Verified Today
[11:45] Ginette Pinazzo: cabn we get that SLURL?
[11:45] Blondin Linden: if we're going to place these out, then Welcome to Zindra would be misleading
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[11:45] colleen Criss: ok I will make that so Blondin ty
[11:45] colleen Criss: touch it Ginette
[11:45] colleen Criss: it will take you there
[11:46] Blondin Linden: oh, one more piece of feedback.
[11:46] colleen Criss: ok I will change that Blondin
[11:46] colleen Criss: ty
[11:46] Forceme Silverspar: Can I have one please, colleen?
[11:46] colleen Criss: listens
[11:46] colleen Criss: yes
[11:46] Blondin Linden: I'd put that texture on the back too so its the same front and back
[11:46] Lias Leandros: well not everyone needs it until its cmomplete
[11:46] Blondin Linden: ok next item on the agenda
[11:46] colleen Criss: I will do that
[11:46] Krystal Devonshire: might want to make the script copy too lol
[11:46] Forceme Silverspar: Ta very much.
[11:46] colleen Criss: ty
[11:47] Lias Leandros: we dont have your slideshow full perm yet Sil
[11:47] Ginette Pinazzo: I mean can I have the SLURL where this will be out all week. (or I guess I just take a copy too)
[11:47] Blondin Linden: Zindra Ambassador Program (ZAP)
[11:47] Blondin Linden: was this Lias's item?
[11:47] Lias Leandros: what is that
[11:47] Blondin Linden: i guess not
[11:47] Blondin Linden: :)
[11:47] Lias Leandros: no of course its Ginette's
[11:47] Ginette Pinazzo: no its one of mine, Blondin....abt communication
[11:47] Blondin Linden: http://sites.google.com/site/zindrabusiness/home/zindra-ambassador-program
[11:47] colleen Criss: yes ginette Ill out this out on our sim
[11:48] colleen Criss: http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Opium/220/184/23
[11:48] Ginette Pinazzo: I encoureage everyone to read the proposal and thiunk it over...the idea is simple.......
[11:48] Blondin Linden: is this something that can be rolled into the MGW group
[11:48] Blondin Linden: ?
[11:48] Ginette Pinazzo: ambassador are liek 'distributors' over all of Zindra.......
[11:48] colleen Criss: RHNs are the same thing
[11:48] Lias Leandros: oh
[11:48] Ginette Pinazzo: their real purpose (not representational government) ...but they simply pass out info from these meetings to Zindrans....
[11:48] Forceme Silverspar: RHN?
[11:49] Zada Bury: "ambassador" sound nicer
[11:49] colleen Criss: resident help networks
[11:49] Wyn Nitely: I think the emphasis is a bit different.... RHN's are education-centric.
[11:49] Lias Leandros: this is the one where yu want people to go to parcels in Zindra and tellpeople to join the Zexpo group in place of the community greoup
[11:49] colleen Criss: RHN
[11:49] Lias Leandros: I say no to that one
[11:49] Ginette Pinazzo: if you see the photo on teh webspage with the proposla, we started mapping out soem areas that are already covered by our scant list of volunteers...hopeing for mmany more......
[11:49] Forceme Silverspar: Wyn, interesting.
[11:50] Blondin Linden: I think getting the information out to everyone is a great idea. Maybe this is soemthing for the MGW or another mentor group to take on
[11:50] Lias Leandros: I dont think Zindra Alliance should have to battle Blondin for members
[11:50] Ginette Pinazzo: teh Expo grpoup is a linden group...all items passed through Ambassadiors would be items officially approved for passing by LL
[11:50] Lias Leandros: thats not getting approval Ginette
[11:50] Counter Landfall: would it Blondin?
[11:50] Lias Leandros: you are talking about official
[11:50] Lias Leandros: only RHN are official
[11:50] Lias Leandros: and they own all of their own groups
[11:50] Ginette Pinazzo: official siomply means not subject to abuse by any private i9nterets
[11:50] colleen Criss: Ginette you do NOT get to call what is and is NOT official , Blondin does !
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[11:51] Lias Leandros: RHN own their own groups
[11:51] Lias Leandros: and they are official
[11:51] Forceme Silverspar: A private resident created group is not offical.
[11:51] colleen Criss: there are no pvt interests present here today
[11:51] Counter Landfall: looks like Ginette wants to be LL mouthpiece
[11:51] Ginette Pinazzo: does anyone else see my point on this?
[11:51] Lias Leandros: no
[11:51] colleen Criss: BOTH groups are open to all to join
[11:51] Lias Leandros: it goes completely against the RHN design
[11:51] Counter Landfall: sorry no, Ginette
[11:51] Silvanus Luckstone: Ambassadors can be a point of information in both directions
[11:51] Forceme Silverspar: Counter can eject and change at will... that's ain't a LL offical group.
[11:51] Ginette Pinazzo: ZA is a proven porivate interest.....thats just the wwya it is..
[11:51] Lias Leandros: But they arent anyway more official than anyone else
[11:51] colleen Criss: So can Blondin :)
[11:52] Zada Bury: maybe can short describe it
[11:52] Qie Niangao: I frankly don't see why any group membership is needed for the Ambassador program at all
[11:52] Lias Leandros: if you want to get people to go solicit all over the grid noone can stop you
[11:52] Ginette Pinazzo: if you dont liek the term 'official'...lets try 'Linden'...beter?
[11:52] Counter Landfall: what exactly is the LL policy on community groups Bløondin?
[11:52] Lias Leandros: its not Linden
[11:52] Silvanus Luckstone: riht, Qie
[11:52] Blondin Linden: explain Qie
[11:52] Blondin Linden: :)
[11:52] Lias Leandros: the only Linden Community entity is a RHN
[11:52] Counter Landfall: does the expo group fall under such a policy?
[11:52] Qie Niangao: as I understand it, Ambassadors just share the news from this meeting, and maybe encourage folks to be engaged in the community
[11:53] Zada Bury: this way I have also understand
[11:53] Counter Landfall: cause if it is a LL led community group, you will be owner of ZA in a minut too
[11:53] Counter Landfall: and you can take over all members
[11:53] Qie Niangao: I can do that for Kama City -- who's to stop me? Whether I'm a member of any group or not
[11:53] Ginette Pinazzo: buty Qie...Blondin...if anything else this last week proved,m it proved sedning out infor mnation can be an absued anility by a private group
[11:54] Lias Leandros: I sent the information we agreed thatthe volunteer secretary would send -
[11:54] Lias Leandros: the chatlogs support that
[11:54] Qie Niangao: yeah, well, I'm thinking that's evidence that groups in general are not helping the Zindra community.
[11:54] Ginette Pinazzo: The Ambassador program is liek 'a seal of approvcalk' guaranbteed to be from the mouth of LL, so to sepak
[11:54] Lias Leandros: if Blondin ius waffling on that now then he would need to discuss that
[11:54] Lias Leandros: The RHN is a real seal of approval
[11:54] Blondin Linden: ok, lets ask the MGW group if that is soemthing they would be interested in
[11:55] Lias Leandros: and LL is not approvaing some volunteer program that only exists in Zindra
[11:55] Blondin Linden: if the group is large enough, I think it would be fairly easy for them
[11:55] colleen Criss: NCI is already represented here they have an info node on Mosh too
[11:55] Counter Landfall: they do
[11:55] Blondin Linden: ok, we need to move onto the next topic
[11:55] colleen Criss: thats meant to be an also
[11:55] Krystal Devonshire: a rebuilt infonode as of last night
[11:55] Blondin Linden: Guest Speakers
[11:55] colleen Criss: :) ty Krys
[11:56] Blondin Linden: Lias - this was you?
[11:56] Lias Leandros: canceled this week
[11:56] Zada Bury: (( somehow I not like the abbreviations .. ZAP ... sounds like the sounds if the Martians makes an invasion ... RHN like a kind of sickness ... but that's not really important ))
[11:56] Lias Leandros: it was colleen
[11:56] Lias Leandros: no
[11:56] Lias Leandros: and she is quite embarassed you canceled her guest speaker last mninute
[11:56] Blondin Linden: oh ok
[11:56] colleen Criss: I asked Wyn and Krys to come from NCI
[11:56] Lias Leandros: and you allowed Ginette to have one last week without any info about it
[11:56] Counter Landfall: zap is not a good name., sounds like soetthing you would do to flies
[11:56] Lias Leandros: you set the precedent
[11:56] Lias Leandros: and then pull rank
[11:57] Blondin Linden: here's an idea. If we are going to have guest speakers, should we move them to the top of the agenda for that week so that they dont have to stick around should they be busy?
[11:57] Ginette Pinazzo: so what is next topic is this was cancelled?
[11:57] Zada Bury: yes, the idea is better.
[11:57] Toran Babenco: I agree with you Blonin
[11:57] Lias Leandros: ok so speakers are at 11AM
[11:57] Zada Bury: special if Geust speeker made an appointment, the are not useless here
[11:57] Zada Bury: 11:10
[11:57] colleen Criss: I was told by Ginette Blondin NOT to jump in front of the line on Wiki
[11:57] Lias Leandros: 11:10?
[11:57] Lias Leandros: ok whatever
[11:57] Forceme Silverspar: Do guest speakers push agenda items off the agenda?
[11:57] Zada Bury: "hello all" comes first
[11:58] Lias Leandros: yes forceme
[11:58] Lias Leandros: next topic
[11:58] Forceme Silverspar: Blondin?
[11:58] Ginette Pinazzo: Guest Speakers ar efien but will eat uyp a lot of meeting tiem when we have lots of odl busienss...........think about it
[11:58] Forceme Silverspar: No one put you in charge Lias, hush.
[11:58] colleen Criss: Ginettte pushed them
[11:58] Lias Leandros: topics should not be more than 8 on the agenda so we can function really
[11:58] Ginette Pinazzo: Guest Speakers could easily be sued to abuse and game the agenda.......just saying
[11:58] Lias Leandros: we can decide to push something to the next weeks agenda
[11:58] Ginette Pinazzo: *used
[11:58] Blondin Linden: yeah Colleen, thats the best way to do it. How about this, each week before we begin, I'll make sure to scan the list and if we have a guest coming, I';ll ask them to go first. SO that way, their visit wont be wasted and everything will stay in order on the wiki agenda
[11:58] Lias Leandros: we pushed guest speakers last week and did not discuss it
[11:59] Zada Bury: mmm ... the agenda was good planned, but there was some distractions in this week ... OR?
[11:59] colleen Criss: ty Blondin
[11:59] colleen Criss: I iwll reinvite them
[11:59] colleen Criss: ty
[11:59] Toran Babenco: good way to go Blondin :)
[11:59] Qie Niangao: (thanks colleen)
[11:59] Forceme Silverspar: WHo can invite a guest speakwer?
[11:59] colleen Criss: :) ty !
[11:59] Zada Bury: but at least, Wyn and Krystal have got a good impression ^.^
[11:59] Blondin Linden: ok. I want to push the next two to next week and get to Counters question before I go
[11:59] Blondin Linden: Purpose of Expo Group
[12:00] Blondin Linden: yes?
[12:00] Silvanus Luckstone: : )
[12:00] Counter Landfall: good
[12:00] colleen Criss: listens
[12:00] Toran Babenco listens to Blondin
[12:00] Blondin Linden: The purpose of the expo group was to help manage the land for the Zindra Expo and future events. If people want to stay in the group inbetween events, I
[12:01] Blondin Linden: 'm not going to kick them out
[12:01] Blondin Linden: I'll just move people to the Everyone role
[12:01] Lias Leandros: and wontthat be used for that mal spots on the zindra sim?
[12:01] Counter Landfall: so the group is a pure event group?
[12:01] Forceme Silverspar: Can we have a LL community group?
[12:01] colleen Criss: then clearly an event group?
[12:01] Toran Babenco: ok, so the expo group isn't a voice of the residents then. right Blondin ?
[12:01] Lias Leandros: no we cant Forceme
[12:01] Lias Leandros: that sets a bad precedent
[12:01] Ginette Pinazzo: Blondin, teh issue wa sraised by soem that the group's Chartetr shoudl eb updated to reflect its nature better? are you oprn to ideas for new chatter text?
[12:02] colleen Criss: LLs doesnt usually get into that kind of involvement am I correct?
[12:02] Blondin Linden: sure
[12:02] Forceme Silverspar: Lias, quit speaking for Blondin, you are not his voice.
[12:02] Lias Leandros: a corporate representati8ve cannot run a community group
[12:02] Zada Bury: the "expo" group was made special for the "exposition" events, but is still in use, Colleen
[12:02] Lias Leandros: Im speaking for common sense and protocol
[12:02] Forceme Silverspar: Great! Can ya do that then Blondin??
[12:02] Zada Bury: btw ... not forget the time, Blondin?
[12:02] Blondin Linden: im open to ideas
[12:02] Forceme Silverspar: FANTASTIC whoohoo!!
[12:02] Toran Babenco: a COMMUNITY group is just THAT
[12:02] Counter Landfall: I suggest you write a group charter that reflects the event nature of the group?
[12:02] Forceme Silverspar: Yep!
[12:03] Lias Leandros: we dont need the company t pretend they are a community group in an attempt to control the community
[12:03] Ginette Pinazzo: ok...I will ask around for chrter rewrite ideas.........to reflect rthe groups nature.......fightingh over a definition amkes little sense uyntilo we rewrite charter
[12:03] Toran Babenco: and an EVENT group is just that !!
[12:03] Counter Landfall: exactly
[12:03] colleen Criss: NO RE RIGHT
[12:03] colleen Criss: he just said
[12:03] colleen Criss: Zxpo is land event group
[12:03] Counter Landfall: meaning it is to be used to communicate information about events
[12:03] colleen Criss: no reason to re write that
[12:03] colleen Criss: write*
[12:04] Toran Babenco: that's what Zxpo is . nothing more than that . ,
[12:04] Forceme Silverspar: This ain't a event group - its a neutral Zindra community group - a group that by the way Lias was fighting for for over 12 months until she defected to ZA.
[12:04] Ginette Pinazzo: (winders why6 certain peoepl are so intent on defining Expo Group as evetns-o0nly? coudl it be a setup for soem big plan?) haha
[12:04] colleen Criss: incorrect Force
[12:04] colleen Criss: He just said that
[12:04] Counter Landfall: simply because LL does not by current ploicy have community groups
[12:04] Qie Niangao: he went poof
[12:04] Forceme Silverspar: What?
[12:04] colleen Criss: Blondin JUST said it was events
[12:04] Counter Landfall: that is why Ginette
[12:04] Toran Babenco: oh?? doen'st matter who fought what. it is an event group and not a commnunity group
[12:04] Zada Bury: the expo group have developed ...
[12:04] Counter Landfall: unless they change that policy , they need to stick to it
[12:05] Zada Bury: *smirks* he must have forgotten much the time ... or crash "bad vieever 2"
[12:05] Ginette Pinazzo: you peoepl really didnt listertn with both ears...'open to ideas' means a lot
[12:05] Silvanus Luckstone: goodviewer2
[12:05] Toran Babenco: no, you just and say "developed" it is what it is. and Blondin just said what it was in answer to counter's question
[12:05] Silvanus Luckstone never crashes with V2.2
[12:05] Counter Landfall: he did
[12:05] Lias Leandros: there is no room in teh community for a companyrun group pretending to be a community group and splitting the community
[12:05] colleen Criss: its Blondins group for pete sake he just said what it was
[12:05] Forceme Silverspar: Well that's enough fun for one night, bye everyone!
[12:05] colleen Criss: EVENTS LAND MGMNT
[12:05] Ginette Pinazzo: and ZWE is about new ideas...try to start soem of your own...insetad of being 100% negative all the time to degrade oithers...learn toi be good peoepl
[12:06] Ginette Pinazzo: take care..Im off too
[12:06] Forceme Silverspar: BP Sweetness
[12:06] Silvanus Luckstone: tc Forceme
[12:06] Toran Babenco: BYE :)
[12:06] Bouncing Box: bye bye everyone
[12:06] Bouncing Box: Yes Mistress.
[12:06] Counter Landfall: there is nothing official comminuty about that group at all Ginette
[12:06] Ginette Pinazzo: oh Hi Boucy...didnt see you there..haha
[12:06] Silvanus Luckstone: bye Gina : )
[12:06] Lias Leandros: whats a ZWE?
[12:06] Ginette Pinazzo: that is your opinion counter
[12:06] Counter Landfall: no it is not
[12:06] colleen Criss: Ginette is a LINDEN ?
[12:07] Counter Landfall: listen to Blondin and LL policy on community groups
[12:07] Toran Babenco: NO GINETTE :) Blondin just told us what it was
[12:07] Ginette Pinazzo: ZWE is a typo...but it COULD mean Zindra World Expo group...haha
[12:07] Counter Landfall: it is actually pretty simple
[12:07] colleen Criss: Wyb ty and Krys for coming so much !
[12:07] colleen Criss: please
[12:07] colleen Criss: consider
[12:07] colleen Criss: returning next week at 11
[12:07] colleen Criss: Wyn*
[12:07] Krystal Devonshire: and im off to RL a bit
[12:07] Wyn Nitely: thanks for the invite. I'll certainly make it if I'm invited again :-)
[12:07] colleen Criss: ty Krys :)
[12:07] Qie Niangao: eep... yeah, back to RL. Have fun folks!
[12:07] Toran Babenco: thanks for being here Wyn and Krys :)
[12:08] Lias Leandros: She wats to build a government
[12:08] colleen Criss: you are invited again
[12:08] Counter Landfall: yes
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