Since Blondin has chosen two weeks in a row to ignore the agenda from the Community Secretary (a position he approved of at the October 18th meeting) and will only acknowledge the agenda that resident Ginette writes to his wiki and signs his name to - there seems no reasons to try to get some of these things answered. Ginette edited my one question off the agenda last week and made sure all four of her personal projects were a the top of the agenda.
The transcripts will still be found here. And any agenda answers will be posted just to track any consistency.
Answers can be found in the transcript.
*OLD BUSINESS*
1. Switching the name of the Podyma sim to Zindra Gateway Sim.
Blondin will update his progress on getting approval for this.
Not Discussed - Moved to November 1st Agenda
[11:35] Blondin Linden: oh yeah. No feedback on it internally. I've gotten messages from people both for and against it. I'll have to keep you updated but nothing to report yet
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2. Meeting Minutes
PROCEDURE: Community Secretary: FAQs
The Community Secretary is a position approved of by Blondin Linden and the Zindra Alliance owner. Both parties have agreed to have a position in the Zindra Alliance group as Community Secretary. Those that wish to volunteer as a community secretary can ask Counter Landfall for the Secretary tag in the Zindra Alliance group. The secretaries will take turns handling the agenda for a month at a a time.The Community Secretary (CS) will post the full meeting transscript each week to this blog and then extract the questions and answers from the transcript that will make up the Agenda for the following week's agenda.
The agenda will be posted here and on Blondin's wiki page.
Anyone can add items to the agenda by posting in the agenda topics post here (in comments) or add to Blondin's wiki. The agenda is closed 24 hours before the Monday meeting (Sunday at 11AM)
At that time the secretary will attend a open community meeting at the CES office in Zindra to meet with community members and clarify agenda items.
Distribute the agenda to the Zindra Alliance group Sunday evening and to anyone that needs it Monday morning before or at the community meeting.
Not Discussed - Blondin would not discuss this.
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3. Ginette's Exploring Zindra Flickr Group: Inworld Slideshow presentation.
a. What Item is delivered upon touching the slideshow?
Three buttons, one gives info on how to adult verify, one gives info on how to get your inages into the flickr
b. Is the contenbt of the slideshow PG so it can be distributed everywhere?
c. Besides Podyan, specifically where outside of Zindra will the slideshow be placed?
d. Why does the Flickr slide show kiosks only show photos from Ginettes flickr and why does IT not give age verification info and an LM for a Zindra Gateway? - colleen Criss
[11:10] Ginette Pinazzo: yes...there are 3 balls.....
[11:11] Ginette Pinazzo: 1. about the slideshow itself and hot to get involved in that
[11:11] Ginette Pinazzo: 2. about age verifying (upgrading your SL experience)
[11:11] Ginette Pinazzo: and 3. about getting involved in Zindra initiatves (these meetings etc)
[11:13] Lias Leandros: The sldeshowhas adult content in it - so only peopel who are adult verified ca see it - so why does it need ageverification ?
[11:15] Silvanus Luckstone: well Lias I dont think that PG is the right place for Zindra advertises as you do
[11:17] Silvanus Luckstone: I already made a lot of PG rateable pics, no worry, I made about 2000 pics the last week
[11:20] Ginette Pinazzo: colleen wanted to know if the 3rd ball (how to get involved) could also point to a 'gateway'...I wanst sure we eevn had out official gateway dsorted out so thats why there is no link like that yet
[11:21] Blondin Linden: we don't really have a gateway
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4. Ginette's Island Maze Proposal
Recap: Art Maze 2011 is a proposal I have had available for review, for months, and I have assembled a team already (there are 8 of us so far with room for more!). I've talked it up in the arts community (which is a very lucrative part of SL) and interest seems high. I believe it's a natural idea that appeals to many categories and will be high-profile enough and inclusive enough to reach far outside Zindra and attract attention. I think that involving the Arts is great way to crossover into a large market. Art Maze seems to have instant appeal to anyone I've spoken with.
QUESTIONS:
a. Will there be adult content in the Maze: ANSWER: YES
b. Will outside people be allowed to present artwork in this event that takes place in Zindra? ANSWER:YES - This answer not accepted by some members of the community. To be discussed further.
c. Can anyone participate? ANSWER: No. the 'team' that is volunteering to run this event will hand-pick the artists. - This answer not accepted by some members of the community. To be discussed further. FORWARDED TO 10/25 AGENDA. (see 10/18 transcript HERE: http://zindraminutes.blogspot.com/2010/10/october-18th-community-meeting-minutes.html
Blondin gave Ginette the go-ahead to have this event as she opresented it. Anyone on the grid can enter and the Maze gateways will go to places outside of Zindra. This is not an event exclusive to Zindrans and a panel (named unknown) hand-picked by Ginette will have absolute control over the entire event.
[11:30] Blondin Linden: I say lets go for it. with the caveat that the content not be too explict. I just want the maze to be of general interest to appeal to other people outside of Zindra. THere can be nudity and adult themes, but I think it can be done in a tasteful, non XXX kinda way. Does that make any sense?
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5. Ginette's Zindra Mentor Team
[11:47] Ginette Pinazzo: In light of this topic, I'd like to propose that we form a special Zindra Mentor Team. This will be a brainstorming team with the following mission: To think of as many ideas as possible, and develop them into actual proposals, for programs that connect with existing SL Mentor programs OR are new Zindra Mentor programs.
[11:38] Blondin Linden: Ginette, you should reach out to Mentors Gone WIld group and see if they already have meetings like this or if they would like to participate
[11:38] Lias Leandros: exactly
[11:38] Lias Leandros: we have Mentors gone wild coming next week
11:38] colleen Criss: MGW doest appear as approved RHN by LLs tho
[11:38] Zada Bury: maybe this is something, where the resident-netowrc .. N... (sorry, I ever forget the name) also can be maybe help or is intersting to be involved?
[11:38] Lias Leandros: we can get them approved once the list opens again
[11:39] Blondin Linden: Colleen, I could try and work with Lexie on getting them approved if they wanted to
[11:39] Blondin Linden: but Lias is right, it;s sort of on hold at the moment. But I can see what lexie says. As long as the MGW group meets the key criteria, I bet we can sneak them in
[11:39] Counter Landfall: I think it is a good idea to work through the official mentor program and not invent something on the side
[11:40] Ginette Pinazzo: I agree Counter, if it cvan be doenm. taht woudld lower stress
[11:49] Lias Leandros: this is the one where yu want people to go to parcels in Zindra and tellpeople to join the Zexpo group in place of the community greoup
[11:49] Ginette Pinazzo: if you see the photo on teh webspage with the proposla, we started mapping out soem areas that are already covered by our scant list of volunteers...hopeing for mmany more......
[11:49] Forceme Silverspar: Wyn, interesting.
[11:50] Blondin Linden: I think getting the information out to everyone is a great idea. Maybe this is soemthing for the MGW or another mentor group to take on
[11:50] Lias Leandros: I dont think Zindra Alliance should have to battle Blondin for members
[11:50] Ginette Pinazzo: teh Expo grpoup is a linden group...all items passed through Ambassadiors would be items officially approved for passing by LL
[11:50] Lias Leandros: thats not getting approval Ginette
[11:54] Ginette Pinazzo: The Ambassador program is liek 'a seal of approvcalk' guaranbteed to be from the mouth of LL, so to sepak
[11:54] Blondin Linden: ok, lets ask the MGW group if that is soemthing they would be interested in
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6. Ginette's Zindra Brainstorming Team Proposal
[11:46] Blondin Linden: * Zindra Mentor Team: proposal to form team to brainstorm mentor ideas http://sites.google.com/site/zindrabusiness/home/zindra-mentor-team
"Ratatosk Independent has written a beautiful piece (see article at http://sites.google.com/site/zindrabusiness/home/zindra-mentor-team) that outlines the problems and proposes possible solutions, related to the absence of Mentor programs for Zindra."
[11:48] Blondin Linden: is this something that can be rolled into the MGW group
[11:48] Blondin Linden: ?
[11:48] Ginette Pinazzo: ambassador are liek 'distributors' over all of Zindra.......
[11:48] colleen Criss: RHNs are the same thing
[11:48] Lias Leandros: oh
[11:48] Ginette Pinazzo: their real purpose (not representational government) ...but they simply pass out info from these meetings to Zindrans....
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7. Blondin proposes what we do when he is not available to attend the meetings
[11:53] Blondin Linden: If I cancel a meeting, please do feel free to have a meeting. The meeting may want to be cut in half to 30 minutes but since the agenda is up on the wiki, I think if you just stick to the clock, you can forward me any notes afterwards.
[11:57] Blondin Linden: no, if Im not going to make it to a meeting, Ill work on asking someone to keep their eye ont he clock and make sure agenda items are hit Who will this 'clock watcher' be and how will they be chosen?
Blondin would not discuss this any further
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8. Guest Speakers
Although Ginette already had a guest seaker at our Oct. 15th meeting, we can take a few minutes and start defining a system to book guest speakers. Since we have two weeks of speakers booked - we can take our time and discuss this.
Zindran colleen Criss has arranged for Krystal Devonshire and wyn nightly of NCI to speak at the Oct. 25th Community Meeting in Bronlen at 11:30 AM. They will tealk to us about NCI's presence in Zindra and inform us where all of their locations are.
The following week we have the founder of MENTORS GONE WILD, Heaven Lacey will speak to the Zindra Community about their activities in Zindra. This will take place Monday, November 1st at 11:30 AM
[11:57] Blondin Linden: here's an idea. If we are going to have guest speakers, should we move them to the top of the agenda for that week so that they dont have to stick around should they be busy?
[11:58] Ginette Pinazzo: Guest Speakers could easily be sued to abuse and game the agenda.......just saying
[11:59] Forceme Silverspar: WHo can invite a guest speakwer?
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*NEW BUSINESS*
9. Zindra discussions and planning sessions on SATURDAYS at the Commercial Event Specialists office located in Yedboro.
CES is a FREE Public Relations and Marketing event firm developed to serve the needs of the Zindra business owner. We offer (FOR FREE) traffic-enhancing events on your parcel, press release writing and distribution. Commercial shoots and publishing (in SL magazines and books) of your business and web publications of slurls to your business at http://www.zindracommunities.com.
EVERYONE IS WELCOME TO ATTEND THESE SATURDAY MEETINGS AT 11AM. EVERY WEEK. CES is located at http://slurl.com/secondlife/Yedboro/7/125/39/
Join the open enrollment group ZINDRA ALLIANCE to get notices about the meetings and add to the discussion.
*This is just for information only. Nothing is needed from Linden Lab for us to have these meetings and and develop events to take place within Zindra and market said events within Zindra and on parcels resident's own outside of Zindra. The meeting report will be made available every Sunday by 6PM SL time at the CES office, posted to the Zindra Alliance group and a link to the minutes online sent to the ZEXPO group.
Ginette removed this from the agenda on the wiki.
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10, Age Verification Kiosks in the Mainland Infohubs
Why are the age verification kiosks NOT out at all info hubs? - colleen Criss
In February I did send a TICKET into the Second Life Help center and recieved a positive rely from Blondin throught that system in March of this year. But, to date, we have not moved forward on placing these kiosks. We seem to be spending quite a bit of eberegy on these ohoto kiosks (that have adult images in them and cannot be placed in the infohubs outside of Zindra) Instead of just getting these G-rated adult verification Kiosks in place and do something positive about the serach firewall that hides Zindra Business from over 90% of new and old players in Secopnd Life.
Here is the ticket information from March
to "liasleandros@gmail.com"
date Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 9:26 AM
subject Ticket #4051-7418803: Sent Final Resolution (Adult Verification Centers in Infohubs and Welcome areas)
Ticket Information:
Ticket #: 4051-7418803 Date Created: 2/24/2010 9:00 PM PDT Details: MAINLAND INFOHUBS AND WELCOME AREAS NEED TO HAVE ADULT VERIFICATION CENTERS INSTALLED Since these areas have thousands of people moving through them daily, this is the most effectve way to increased awareness of Zindra. I hope that this can be arranged by March 16th in time to advertise the Zindra Adult Expo properly.
Please let me know so we can get builders to pull together networked prototypes that can be chosen from for this purpose.
RESPONSE TO TICKET
Hi Lias,
Unfortunately, we don't have the bandwidth internally to accomplish this. If you wanted to build out a kiosk, I could help place them around the infohubs but keep in mind, all content and images would need to be as close to PG as possible.
-Blondin
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So he said we cannot have NETWORKED Kiosks (for easy updating) but we can have stand-alone kiosks in the mainland infohubs outside of Zindra. We need to move forward on this.Italic text
A notice was sent out to the ZA group to see if anyone has a kiosk design (non-networked, low prim) that can be used as the Adult verification Kiosk Blondin can place in the mature and PG Infohubs and welcome areas on the mainland.
[11:45] Blondin Linden: I'm ok with 4 prims :) If I was to give feedback, I'd change the texture to read: Zindra: The Adult Continent Get Age Verified Today
[11:46] Blondin Linden: I'd put that texture on the back too so its the same front and back
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11. * What is the purpose of the Zindra Expo group?
I ask that Blondin clearly states the purpose of this group and clarifies if it is indeed a Linden led community group. If it is not a community group, this must be reflected both in the group charter and how this group is handled. The original purpose of the group was a pure, once off event group. - Counter Landfall
[12:00] Blondin Linden: The purpose of the expo group was to help manage the land for the Zindra Expo and future events. If people want to stay in the group inbetween events, I
[12:01] Blondin Linden: 'm not going to kick them out
[12:01] Blondin Linden: I'll just move people to the Everyone role
[12:01] Forceme Silverspar: Can we have a LL community group?
[12:01] colleen Criss: then clearly an event group?
[12:01] Toran Babenco: ok, so the expo group isn't a voice of the residents then. right Blondin ?
[12:01] Lias Leandros: no we cant Forceme
[12:01] Ginette Pinazzo: Blondin, teh issue wa sraised by soem that the group's Chartetr shoudl eb updated to reflect its nature better? are you oprn to ideas for new chatter text?
[12:02] Lias Leandros: a corporate representati8ve cannot run a community group
[12:02] Blondin Linden: im open to ideas
[12:02] Counter Landfall: I suggest you write a group charter that reflects the event nature of the group?
[12:04] Ginette Pinazzo: (winders why6 certain peoepl are so intent on defining Expo Group as evetns-o0nly? coudl it be a setup for soem big plan?) haha
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