Monday, December 20, 2010

Transcript for Monday Dec 20th 2010 Community meeting

[10:59] Ginette Pinazzo: hi Force
[10:59] Forceme Silverspar: 'ello there, hiya Sissy.
[10:59] MystiTool HUD 1.0.21: Entering chat range: Zada Bury (8m)
[10:59] Ginette Pinazzo: Hi Sissy
[10:59] Sissy Blitz: Hello Forceme :)
[10:59] Sissy Blitz: Hello Ginette :))
[10:59] Ginette Pinazzo: Hi Zadz
[11:00] Zada Bury: heya all ^_^
[11:00] MystiTool HUD 1.0.21: Entering chat range: Qie Niangao (7m)
[11:00] Forceme Silverspar: HIy Zada
[11:00] Ginette Pinazzo: Zadz..where is my chocolate you shoudl have promised?
[11:00] Sissy Blitz: Hello Zada
[11:00] Zada Bury: ok ... who have tell Blondin, he should wait outside for the surprise party?
[11:01] Blondin Linden: ha
[11:01] Blondin Linden: did I spoil it?
[11:01] Ginette Pinazzo: Hi Blondin
[11:01] Zada Bury: may we have hide a Snowball for you ^.^
[11:01] Zada Bury: oh ... them >_<
[11:01] Blondin Linden: I unfortuantely, only have 30 minutes today
[11:01] Blondin Linden: so we should get to it
[11:02] Zada Bury: kk then we better hurry
[11:02] Blondin Linden: first and for most, I want to add that I'll be on holiday until Jan 10th
[11:02] Lias Leandros: Not many agenda items anyway
[11:02] Blondin Linden: So I wont be around :/
[11:02] Zada Bury: sad to hear ... enjoy your time
[11:02] Ginette Pinazzo: is there a plan for your absence?
[11:02] Dancer Greenfield: Holidays aren't sad
[11:03] Dancer Greenfield: Are they?
[11:03] Blondin Linden: Ill sync up with both GInette and Colleen about the their events sometime this week
[11:03] Blondin Linden: just to make sure everything is covered
[11:03] Blondin Linden: ok. First up on the agenda was Ginette's item
[11:03] Blondin Linden: ZEXPO 2011
[11:04] Ginette Pinazzo: yes....have you glanmced over it Blondin? that will make this faster if yo did
[11:04] Blondin Linden: very quickly I looked at it
[11:04] Ginette Pinazzo: ok..Ill try to sum up.....
[11:04] Ginette Pinazzo: Past April, we had ZEXPO 2010...(which stands for Zindra Expo...for those who have forgotten!)......a truly miraculous event that was miraculous that it happened at all...... Despite many challenges, including a competing event 2 weeks before, and mind-boggling planning setbacks, ZEXPO 2010 happened. Many of those involved in that spectacle have been involved with this proposal, a proposal thats sets out to do 3 things:........
[11:05] Ginette Pinazzo: 1. to do it right, which means without all of the problems from last time.....(keeping it no-stress and fun. This is achieved by ample planning time and a friendly, teamwork attitude)...
[11:05] Ginette Pinazzo: 2. to make it unique. Because events on the zexpo Island must be very unique to get approval (unique enough people will age verofy to come to them from all over). I believe this proposal is very unique indeed.....
[11:05] Ginette Pinazzo: 3. to reach out and draw new talent into the show, from all over Zindra AND beyond, to expand the talent pool so we can have real growth.............
[11:06] Ginette Pinazzo: I wont read all of this...just the highlights (to be fast)
[11:06] Ginette Pinazzo: CONCEPT......
[11:06] Ginette Pinazzo: A showcase of the passion, talent and entrepreneurial spirit of Zindra, this year's ZEXPO will blend education with entertainment, play with shopping, artistic exhibition with inspirational messages, to give visitors a positive and exciting impression of SL's 'adult continent'. An island packed with things to see, do and experience, ZEXPO 2011 will maintain a healthy and engaging message, to encourage guests to learn, indulge and become involved in everything Zindra has to offer.......
[11:06] Ginette Pinazzo: Ill next mentiona few of the features of the proposal, unless you bhave an early comment now Blondin....
[11:07] Blondin Linden: nope, go for it
[11:07] Ginette Pinazzo: MESSAGE...... The team will draft a 'show message' that is positive and we will do our best to adhere to that message in every aspect of the event. Our goal is to use this message as a standard for marketing, content and public relations.......
[11:08] Ginette Pinazzo: ISLAND LAYOUT...... Designers will be utilized to plan a beautiful layout, that integrates all aspects of ZEXPO into a fluid environment, with intuitive pathways that encourage moving traffic and expose visitors to everything the show offers. An effort will be made to attract 'famous' designer(s) to do the layout (which is something we can cross promote) No arbitrary divisions, but a layout based on intuitive exploration. Exhibitors will have many options regarding display areas, and may even be present at multiple locations depending upon display types. We may have some 'design' standards available for all Exhibitors so their individual displays relate (in some way) to the overall layout, to allow for a consistent 'show look''......
[11:08] Ginette Pinazzo: (we will solicit from all ovber SL to get the best design ideas froma 'name' designer)
[11:08] Ginette Pinazzo: EXHIBITORS...... Every possible type of exhibitor will be accommodated for ZEXPO 2011, with the following 'types' as examples: Entertainers, Educators, Merchants, Play Areas, Visual Artists, etc If we discover an Exhibitor who does not 'fit' our categories, we will create a new category. Our plan will be one of a inclusiveness, a 'can-do' attitude....... Exhibitors will have the option to choose multiple types (when relevant) and have multiple displays to highlight those specific aspects of their business/message....... Example: Happy Heather's might have a spot to sell custom rocking chairs, and also a mini-park set up where people can play on those chairs, and also a stage where they do a live show, involving those chairs. (Exhibitors will also be able to book 'event time' as part of their options)......
[11:09] MystiTool HUD 1.0.21: Entering chat range: diedo Loopen (19m)
[11:09] Ginette Pinazzo: RADIO...... We will create a custom ZEXPO radio station with exclusive ZEXPO and Zindra-related commercials, for use during the event AND available to anyone who wants to use the stream in the weeks leading up to the event. We will also offer commercial spots to any Exhibitors.......
[11:09] Ginette Pinazzo: PRE PARTIES...... We will encourage many 'pre parties' hosted by any interested Exhibitors at their own location in the weeks leading up to the event, to increase interest and involvement. Our team will provide basic pre-party decor, ZEXPO themed items and a good cross promotional opportunity for these parties.......
[11:09] Ginette Pinazzo: SHOW GUIDE...... The ZEXPO 2011 Ultimate Guide will contain every attraction, event and promotion connected to the show and this publication will be available at least 1 week (hopefully more) before show start. Any last-minute changes will be on an addendum that exists online and at the show Landing Point.......
[11:10] Ginette Pinazzo: and this ;last part is my personal favourite.........
[11:10] Ginette Pinazzo: HOTELS...... Just like any convention or trade show, it's fun to travel and stay at special accomodations near the show. We will try to start a new idea: finding 'SL hotels' that will create special rooms, across the water, for Zexpo guests to book in advance. Hotel guests will be able to ride a ferry (or some vehicle) across the water to the show, and booking a hotel room might also include special benefits at the show. This could become avery fun part of ZEXPO! (everyone knows the fun parties happen in the hotels)......
[11:10] Dancer Greenfield: Haha
[11:10] MystiTool HUD 1.0.21: Entering chat range: Counter Landfall (19m)
[11:10] Dancer Greenfield: I like that too
[11:11] Ginette Pinazzo: so far we have about 8 committed team members, who have longe xperience with events including most from last zexpo....
[11:11] Ginette Pinazzo: FIN
[11:11] Forceme Silverspar: Bravo!
[11:11] Ginette Pinazzo: thats your highlights
[11:11] Zada Bury: Sounds funny
[11:11] MystiTool HUD 1.0.21: Entering chat range: AdoraBella Avro (18m)
[11:11] Counter Landfall: Hi everyone
[11:11] Blondin Linden: any questions from the group?
[11:11] Dancer Greenfield: There were a lot of problems last year, I hope we can learn from them
[11:11] Dancer Greenfield: My main question is: when?
[11:11] Dancer Greenfield: and how long?
[11:11] Counter Landfall accepted your inventory offer.
[11:11] Blondin Linden: i think when is TBA
[11:11] Dancer Greenfield: Last year was 10 days, wasn't it?
[11:11] Ginette Pinazzo: in nmentions in the proposal perhaps 2 weeks duration
[11:11] AdoraBella Avro: I have a personal request for Blondin
[11:12] Qie Niangao: So, what are the related action items to come from this meeting? And what is the process for establishing a date?
[11:12] Ginette Pinazzo: Blondin..Ill say this..this proposal is fully finished (outside any changes of course)...I think that its ready to go asap
[11:12] Zada Bury: Maybe a bit longer this year? the showcase? a lot doing much work for builds on the event ... and if it not collides with an other event on the island ...?
[11:13] Blondin Linden: well, I think the action item is to take the time to read through the proposal and make comments
[11:13] Dancer Greenfield: We decide the dates in this round, don't we?
[11:13] Ginette Pinazzo: no..the dates are alwasy negotiated with LL...thats in the Island propsoal proccess
[11:13] Blondin Linden: we'll figure out some dates
[11:13] Blondin Linden: im not to worrried about it
[11:14] Dancer Greenfield: My preference is for early April, but AFTER April 3rd
[11:14] Lias Leandros: haha
[11:14] Qie Niangao: well... but this can drift on for months and months if there's no anchor set on the calendar.
[11:14] Ginette Pinazzo: last zexspo was in April
[11:14] Counter Landfall: it was not
[11:14] Lias Leandros: Unzipped is April
[11:14] Counter Landfall: it was in May
[11:14] Blondin Linden: well, i think April is taken :/
[11:14] MystiTool HUD 1.0.21: Entering chat range: Foxyfluff Byron (4m)
[11:14] Ginette Pinazzo: I say events that have proposals shoudl carry weight , Blondin.......to be fair....ther cant be any 'reserving' of land without that
[11:15] Zada Bury: May we can have on the Wiki-Page also soem "event-plan"?
[11:15] Dancer Greenfield: April 3rd is daylight savings change for Australia/NZ... it would be good to avoid that
[11:15] Ginette Pinazzo: unzipped is tentative.......
[11:15] Lias Leandros: every event proposed has a proposal
[11:15] Lias Leandros: here is the timeline
[11:15] Zada Bury: so we see also to other events , which are there ... like the "bedfair" and so on
[11:15] Lias Leandros: and you can touch it and get the notecard version
[11:16] Ginette Pinazzo: Blondin, if you let peoepl reserve land without actual full proposals, it preferebtial treatment...just saying
[11:16] Blondin Linden: in the name of time, I think we should move on
[11:16] Ginette Pinazzo: bed fair is tentative, as is unzipped
[11:16] Lias Leandros: Unzipped has a full proposal and the URL is listed in Blondin's wiki
[11:16] Blondin Linden: bc the isssue of schedule is important for the Unzipped team as well
[11:16] Dancer Greenfield: Is Unzipped official yet? I didn't think the proposal is ready yet
[11:16] Lias Leandros: nice try Ginette
[11:16] Zada Bury: (( rezzing))
[11:16] Lias Leandros: Dancer
[11:16] Ginette Pinazzo: lias..its not 'nice try'...how dare you
[11:16] Lias Leandros: you cannot step on the dates of other's events and consider yourself being right
[11:16] Lias Leandros: such nonsense
[11:17] Dancer Greenfield: Unzipped can't fix a date until after the proposal is ready
[11:17] Ginette Pinazzo: you are the one who steps....now dont do this in public
[11:17] Lias Leandros: Why would you choose the dates proposed by Unzipped when there are months not being used there?
[11:17] Lias Leandros: its just trouble making
[11:17] MystiTool HUD 1.0.21: Entering chat range: Evelynn Kidd (19m)
[11:17] Blondin Linden: Lias, Im looking at your timeline and right away, I noitce you're going to have to push back the first two dates
[11:17] Counter Landfall: we can fix it enough to say we need the sims for april month
[11:17] Ginette Pinazzo: unzipped did not even do a propsoal yet! thats a fact
[11:17] Lias Leandros: Ok Blondin
[11:17] Lias Leandros: thats not an issue
[11:17] Counter Landfall: is that presise enough for you?
[11:18] Lias Leandros: anyone can touch the board and get the draft of the timeline
[11:18] Ginette Pinazzo: I saw their 'proposal'...its a bare outlione.......
[11:18] Dancer Greenfield: We can discuss Unzipped's dates next year, there's no rush
[11:18] Lias Leandros: 5 Minute auto return:-)
[11:18] AdoraBella Avro: very true, lets move on please
[11:18] Lias Leandros: We are discussing all events for 2011 Now Dancer
[11:18] MystiTool HUD 1.0.21: Entering chat range: Kimiko Yiyuan (8m)
[11:19] Ginette Pinazzo: Blondin.....they even chnaged the name of their evnent to cause mroe confusion...this is unacceptable
[11:19] Lias Leandros: Since Zexpo is just a copy of the planning that COunter developed anyway
[11:19] Lias Leandros: Ginette comeon
[11:19] Lias Leandros: COunter developed this event
[11:19] Ginette Pinazzo: it was Zindra Unzipped...now its Unzipped Zindra Expo...I have ALREADY heard from peoepl are confusd
[11:19] Kimiko Yiyuan: Hello all.
[11:19] Lias Leandros: Ginete this was proposed before Zexpo
[11:19] Zada Bury: Welcome Kimiko
[11:19] Lias Leandros: two tiumes in a row
[11:19] Foxyfluff Byron waves to Kimiko
[11:19] Lias Leandros: and you decided to propose zexpo anyway
[11:19] Dancer Greenfield: Unzipped hasn't even been planned yet... let's put off the discussion till next year
[11:20] Ginette Pinazzo: it was discussed but never proposed...we need have procedure for a reason
[11:20] Kimiko Yiyuan waves back
[11:20] Lias Leandros: after this was proposed first
[11:20] Lias Leandros: No one wants your dates foryour events
[11:20] Dancer Greenfield: Zexpo is proposed, Unzipped is still in the early planning stages
[11:20] Qie Niangao: so anyway: what do we want from Blondin as an action for the Unzipped agenda item?
[11:20] Lias Leandros: no
[11:20] Lias Leandros: uzipped was prposed a month ago before you proposed Zexpo
[11:20] Lias Leandros: look at the trabnscripts
[11:20] Ginette Pinazzo: lias ...you are dead wrong as usual.....go l,ookm up 'tentative'
[11:21] Second Life: Your object 'Unzipped Zindra Time Line (A)' has been returned to your inventory lost and found folder by Governor Linden from parcel 'Kama City Municipal Park' at Bronlen 120, 215 due to parcel auto return.
[11:21] Lias Leandros: That does not mena you try to take the dates
[11:21] Lias Leandros: thats not nice
[11:21] Sissy Blitz: Ginette dont be to disrespectful
[11:21] Ginette Pinazzo: Sissy.. dont turn this on me...I know what i am talking about
[11:21] Lias Leandros: Blondin we have an actual timeline
[11:21] Qie Niangao: seriously: if there's no action expected, shall we skip to the *next* item?
[11:21] Ginette Pinazzo: a timeline is not a proposal
[11:21] AdoraBella Avro: you guys have fun, see ya
[11:21] Lias Leandros: yes I aree Qie
[11:22] Lias Leandros: a proposal without a timeline is not a proposal
[11:22] Zada Bury: well, for today next item, or? 8 minutes left
[11:22] Dancer Greenfield: I don't want to discuss dates now, but since Unzipped seems similar to Zexpo how about having it 6 months after Zexpo? That way we can have spring and fall shows
[11:22] Blondin Linden: ok. Here is what we are going do
[11:22] Lias Leandros: Zexpo is the same as Unzipped because COunter developed Unzipped before Zexpo
[11:22] Counter Landfall: why don't we just let her have it. so she can claim LL gave her 4 sims for her private use
[11:23] Lias Leandros: not at all COunter
[11:23] Ginette Pinazzo: the island process is very specific....you have not even come close to it...besides, you openly hated it anyway........so whats the confusion? doa propeor proposal THEN submit...thats the order
[11:23] Counter Landfall: that is how you act Ginette
[11:23] Lias Leandros: I have the website made
[11:23] Lias Leandros: and the positions developed
[11:23] Lias Leandros: and the timeline
[11:23] Ginette Pinazzo: pribate use? plea.se......who wants to have ZA evenst on LL land? thats private
[11:23] Lias Leandros: that follows Ginette's guidelines
[11:24] Blondin Linden: I'm going to hold the dates tentativly for the Unzipped event as long as I have a proosal that looks like what we've outlined by the time I get back from Holiday. You have a lot of the infomation already but are missing a few things I would like to see. Also, I'd like to see it all on one page so I don't have to hunt around for it .
[11:24] Counter Landfall: Ginette, let me be very private with you for a change and tell you why I dont have the time to sit in SL these days.
[11:24] Counter Landfall: MY fater is dying
[11:24] Blondin Linden: http://sites.google.com/site/zindrabusiness/home/zexpo-island-seasonal-events-campaign
[11:24] Counter Landfall: I dont have the time to sit and make proposals
[11:24] Blondin Linden: That link is what I'd like to see.
[11:24] Lias Leandros: Ok Blondin' thank you
[11:24] Ginette Pinazzo: then thats too bad counter..Im sorry about that....but that how things get donme in a responsible way
[11:24] Counter Landfall: so you yeild a couple more weeks, ok [11:25] Zada Bury: I think there is nothing for "private use" ... and sorry to hear, Counter.
[11:25] Ginette Pinazzo: there counter...youve gotteneven more preferential treatment...enjoy
[11:25] Lias Leandros: With the snowman build COunter had RL and passed it to Colleen and then Colleen had issues and asked that some of us help and we did
[11:25] Counter Landfall: thanks
[11:25] Lias Leandros: so there shows community helping one another
[11:26] Blondin Linden: If I get back and dont see proposal like its outlined on the link above, then the time slot will go to the next event, which is the Zexpo
[11:26] Blondin Linden: Also, keep the name Unzipped
[11:26] Counter Landfall: and now you know what the RL issue was
[11:26] Blondin Linden: just to keep things simple
[11:26] Blondin Linden: please
[11:26] Lias Leandros: I think we have established a good working relationship with quite few residents - And we did not include anyone that is not a Zindran in the event
[11:26] Blondin Linden: Thanks
[11:26] Ginette Pinazzo: yes do not change your event to Unzipped Zindra Expo...thats causes public confusion
[11:26] Blondin Linden: next item
[11:26] Blondin Linden: Designer Slideshow Kiosks
[11:26] Lias Leandros: Its nt confusion when he came up with a Expo event last year anyway
[11:26] Ginette Pinazzo: lias...change the name asap
[11:27] Lias Leandros: lol
[11:27] Ginette Pinazzo: Bloindin, that item can wait in the interst of time
[11:27] MystiTool HUD 1.0.21: Entering chat range: Arthas Scorpio (8m)
[11:27] Lias Leandros: Blondin Colleen could not be here but can you turn build off on Zindra?
[11:27] Blondin Linden: thanks GInette
[11:28] Blondin Linden: And the last item Im going to skip bc there is no name assciated with it
[11:28] Ginette Pinazzo: yes, whats with the anonymus agenda item? haha
[11:28] Lias Leandros: Oh Im sorry that was me
[11:28] Lias Leandros: Ill add it in January
[11:28] Ginette Pinazzo: haha
[11:28] Blondin Linden: kk thanks
[11:28] Lias Leandros: haha
[11:28] Blondin Linden: alright all
[11:28] Lias Leandros: have a good holiday Blondin
[11:29] Ginette Pinazzo: cioa Blondin
[11:29] Forceme Silverspar: Byebye
[11:29] Zada Bury: enjoy the holiday ...
[11:29] Blondin Linden: Ginette and Colleen, who isnt here, I'll be in touch
[11:29] Blondin Linden: Thanks all!
[11:29] Zada Bury: ... we will miss you.
[11:29] Dancer Greenfield: Bye Blondin
[11:29] Dancer Greenfield: Have a good time
[11:29] Ginette Pinazzo: ah...30 minutes isnt so bad, bow is it? ugh
[11:29] Kimiko Yiyuan: Bye Blondin.
[11:29] Counter Landfall: Bye and a Merry Christmas to you Blondin
[11:29] Zada Bury: (( is it safe now to take the protection hat off? ))
[11:29] Kimiko Yiyuan: Happy Holidays
[11:29] Evelynn Kidd: when will the next meeting be?
[11:29] Foxyfluff Byron: Mele Kalikimaka
[11:29] Zada Bury: 10 jan
[11:29] Counter Landfall: next year I guess
[11:30] Dancer Greenfield: I'm surprised we had a meeting at all today in Christmas week
[11:30] Zada Bury: for these who have miss: "[11:02] Blondin Linden: first and for most, I want to add that I'll be on holiday until Jan 10th"
[11:30] Qie Niangao: So, Lias, are you taking the ball for munging the Unzipped info into the Standard Approved Format?
[11:31] Lias Leandros: yes
[11:31] Lias Leandros: I will try

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