7 Steps To Community use of the Sim of Zindra

The Sim of Zindra in the continent of Zindra has been turned into a retail merchant booth space surrounded by a moat. Besides the retail lottery events the Moles will be developing in the future, there can be space developed for small, short term community events.

The first community-planned event on Zindra was the Naughty Snowman Build Contest. Local Zindra business sponsored and participated in the event and it was a wonderful success.
(As seen here on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCJWCcdDxgE)
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Any Zindran can apply to produce a event that will last no more than 30 days on the sim of Zindra by following the proposed simple guidelines:

Please check the Public Google Calendar for the available dates for use of the sim of Zindra. (URL to be established).


1. PRESENTATION: Create a free blog address in the name of your proposed event. Include an outline of your event. (http://www.blogger.com)

2. PERMISSIONS
A) How do you propose establishing build permissions for your event?
B) Will you need Media permissions? How do you propose establishing them?
C) Do you need the Moles to make any landscaping changes to the Sim prior to the event?


3. TIMELINE:
A) Date you need to start setup:
B) Date you will allow your participants to start building
C) Date of Event
D) End Date of Event
E)Clean up Date of Event

4. PRIM USAGE: The Mall may, at any time, have content providers in it. Even though the sim allows 15,000 prims - The maximum prims available for community events will be 7,000 prims.

A) How many participants maximum will you allow.
B) How many prims per participant will be allowed.
C) Will you be building a dock, stage or prim work area for the event.
D) Describe the area you will need to build.
E) Where on the sim (include coordinate) do you want to place your event area?
F) How many prims do you estimate you will need for this area.

5. PUBLICIZING YOUR EVENT
Write a small summary of how you will let people know about your event.
How will you let people outside of Zindra know about your event also.

6. EVENT SPONSORSHIP
What Zindra business (if any) will be sponsoring your event? Indicate what they will be doing as part of their sponsorship.

7. EVENT STAFF
Name your event staff positions (including your role) and describe the responsibilities of each position.

Add the name of the Person that will be filling each position (you should have these positions filled at least 30 days prior to the event SETUP date.

A) Coordinator
B) Marketing
C) Event Host
D) Sim Designer
E) Participant Recruitment
F) Customer Service

G)OTHER positions you feel you need.

Community Meeting Transcript, January 10, 2011

[10:54] Ginette Pinazzo: Hi Silva
[10:54] slothful Sloth (silvanus.northman): hi all ㋡
[10:54] slothful Sloth (silvanus.northman): HI gina
[10:54] slothful Sloth (silvanus.northman): hi and happy new year : )
[10:54] Qie (qie.niangao): Hi folks. (a little distracted here)
[10:54] Ginette Pinazzo: great slideshow Silva
[10:54] Ginette Pinazzo: Hi Q
[10:55] slothful Sloth (silvanus.northman): hi Sissy
[10:55] MystiTool HUD 1.3.1: Entering chat range: Zada Bury (9m)
[10:56] Ginette Pinazzo: we'll see if Blondin remembers abt these meetings after the long vacation
[10:56] slothful Sloth (silvanus.northman) shouts: Zada ^^
[10:56] Zada Bury: morning, evening, g'night ... whatever to all ^_^
[10:56] Ginette Pinazzo: hi Zada!
[10:56] Zada Bury: heya ^.^
[10:56] slothful Sloth (silvanus.northman): rawr, Zada
[10:57] Zada Bury: Oh, I hate display names ...
[10:57] slothful Sloth (silvanus.northman): haha
[10:57] slothful Sloth (silvanus.northman): I love it
[10:58] slothful Sloth (silvanus.northman): my next name I will put above my head is 'social disease' ;)
[10:59] Ginette Pinazzo: Zada..I love yoru Flickr site..its really fileld with nice stuff
[10:59] Zada Bury: I try my best
[10:59] Zada Bury: some I have, bit shape them need a time
[10:59] Ginette Pinazzo: even the photos of the infohubs..makes thm look really classy
[11:00] Zada Bury: I have done them first as kind of help for Blonding, but I have miss to send, where he can find them ...
[11:00] Zada Bury: ... now I have place them there
[11:00] You decline NEW Element, the 8th Club @ GOL , GOL 7 (110, 237, 23) from A group member named Karola Silversmith.
[11:00] MystiTool HUD 1.3.1: Entering chat range: Couldbe Yue (9m)
[11:01] Zada Bury: his last pictures about was ... mmm ... let's say "they have miss a part of fine-tune" ^.^
[11:01] Ginette Pinazzo: think Blondin had too much eggnog this time?
[11:01] Qie (qie.niangao): greetings, Blondin
[11:01] Zada Bury: Heya there, Blondin.
[11:01] slothful Sloth (silvanus.northman): HI Blondin : )
[11:01] VISTA ANIMATIONS *HUD 3.6* - SENSUAL WOMAN AO- V4U: MAIN AO OFF
[11:01] Blondin (blondin.linden): hello Qie
[11:02] Blondin (blondin.linden): hey all
[11:02] slothful Sloth (silvanus.northman): happy new year
[11:02] Blondin (blondin.linden): nice to see you all again
[11:02] Zada Bury: How war your Holiday?
[11:02] Ginette Pinazzo: Hi Blondin
[11:02] Blondin (blondin.linden): yes! happy 2011
[11:02] Blondin (blondin.linden): hope January is going well so far
[11:02] Ginette Pinazzo: new years resolutions all taken care of, I hope?
[11:02] Zada Bury: What? we have 2011? Why I have not get a group-notice?
[11:03] Blondin (blondin.linden): i know right!
[11:03] slothful Sloth (silvanus.northman): soon in 2012 only SL will exist... after the real world is gone ;)
[11:03] Blondin (blondin.linden): I saw tron over the holiday. Made me think of SL a bit
[11:04] slothful Sloth (silvanus.northman): yeah you can lose your mind here ^^
[11:04] MystiTool HUD 1.3.1: Entering chat range: Ratatosk Independent (19m)
[11:04] Blondin (blondin.linden): shall we get started? But take it easy on me today. Its been a long day already, trying to catch up
[11:05] Ginette Pinazzo: (puts away nail file to take it easy)
[11:05] Blondin (blondin.linden): lets start with the Maze report?
[11:05] Blondin (blondin.linden): https://sites.google.com/site/artmazeinsecondlife/
[11:05] Ginette Pinazzo: ok...lots of good news......
[11:05] Ginette Pinazzo: 7 thinsg to mention...all good, I think....
[11:05] Blondin (blondin.linden): cool! the floor is yours
[11:06] Ginette Pinazzo: 1. We have a nice spread in ICON magazine out now (a preview piece)....
[11:06] Ginette Pinazzo: 2. We will be running some Pre Parties at artists' own sims and I'll post that schedule soon.......
[11:06] Ginette Pinazzo: 3. We have a full line now of free Art Maze Apparel (and a coffee mug, of course), created by the maze artists, available in the lobby.......
[11:06] Blondin (blondin.linden): (can you link tot he Icon piece?)
[11:06] Ginette Pinazzo: yes Ill put a link on the art maze site asap......they do an online version of the issue
[11:07] Ginette Pinazzo: 4. We will be encouraging visitors to the maze to write 'travel journals' as they explore the maze.....these will be notecards they send us, that we collect.....where they can express their experiences as they explore (the maze is complex and engrossing enough, I predict many trips will be common)........these journals will act as feedback plus may make great items to publish.....to get lasting value from the show after its taken down.......keeping the visitors involved......
[11:07] Ginette Pinazzo: 5. We've been encouraging artists to have videos made....'walk-throughs' of their installations....(some of our more prolific videomakers are helping with this).....The results have been great so far, (they are on the Art Maze site now via YouTube) and I really feel videos like this are key to building positive PR and nurturing long-term relationships between Zindra, SL and the public in general.....
[11:08] Ginette Pinazzo: 6. Related to that, and to the various articles we've been posting, we have very good Google search results, and I think this is momentum we can really build upon.......
[11:08] Ginette Pinazzo: and finally...
[11:08] Ginette Pinazzo: 7. Our official Testing Day for the maze is FRI JAN 14 from 4PM on (anyoe who wants to sign up to be a tester should contact BBQBill Odriscoll)......
[11:08] Ginette Pinazzo: FIN
[11:08] Blondin (blondin.linden): Um, I wont be able to attend the walk through but I think COunrtney told me she would stop by at 4
[11:08] Ginette Pinazzo: great
[11:09] MystiTool HUD 1.3.1: Entering chat range: Gristas Follet (18m)
[11:09] Sissy Blitz: I have been Removed from the art maze I have emailed you the details why
[11:09] Lias (lias.leandros) is Online
[11:09] MystiTool HUD 1.3.1: Entering chat range: Rayna Ritt (19m)
[11:09] Blondin (blondin.linden): sorry - trying to access the videos
[11:10] Ginette Pinazzo: there are quiet a few of them Blondin already
[11:10] Zada Bury: Some of them are ... long, very long.
[11:10] Blondin (blondin.linden): how are you going to encourage people to send you notecards / journals?
[11:11] Blondin (blondin.linden): any ideas yet?
[11:11] Ginette Pinazzo: in the lobby we;; have soemthing that explains it, at th very least
[11:11] Ginette Pinazzo: where the freebies are
[11:11] Blondin (blondin.linden): ah ok
[11:11] Blondin (blondin.linden): just wondering
[11:11] Ginette Pinazzo: its a sort of clever way to get extar feedback from visitors
[11:12] Blondin (blondin.linden): so the plan is to have the building done by Friday yes? for the walk through
[11:12] Ginette Pinazzo: plus get content we can use to keep PRing later
[11:12] Ginette Pinazzo: yes blding doen by the 14th..good enough for walk through
[11:12] Ginette Pinazzo: I foprgot to emntion also the art maze music steram, will eb ready by tommorrow I think...with comemrciasls for it!
[11:13] Blondin (blondin.linden): any plans for the week before the offical opening? It opens on the 21st yes?
[11:13] Lias (lias.leandros) is Offline
[11:13] Ginette Pinazzo: well the week leading up, one thing is qwe will have pre partie at the artists' own sims...to cross promote......to help build excitemet
[11:13] Ginette Pinazzo: technically, the maze will be open anywya so peoepl can just starti coming in early...I think the longer its up the better
[11:14] Ginette Pinazzo: its actually complex enough, theres aLOT to see in it already
[11:14] Ginette Pinazzo: thats anotehr rason for the vidos....to presevr it because its hard to see it all
[11:14] Lias (lias.leandros) is Online
[11:14] Blondin (blondin.linden): makes sense
[11:14] slothful Sloth (silvanus.northman): its already amazing yes
[11:14] Ginette Pinazzo: *videos
[11:14] Zada Bury: What I have seen so far is very interesting.
[11:14] Blondin (blondin.linden): anyone in the audience have questions?
[11:14] Ginette Pinazzo: bad pun, Silva
[11:15] slothful Sloth (silvanus.northman): oh - sry chat - lag
[11:15] Blondin (blondin.linden): ok. Otherwise, we can move onto the next item
[11:15] Blondin (blondin.linden): http://sites.google.com/site/zindrabusiness/home/zindra-pr-team
[11:15] Zada Bury: Write a ticket, they should reset the sim .. will be sone in 4 ... months. >_<
[11:16] Ginette Pinazzo: ok..the PR team.....
[11:16] Blondin (blondin.linden): I havent read this yet. GImme a sec to skim over real quick
[11:16] Blondin (blondin.linden): this sim here?
[11:16] Blondin (blondin.linden): I can do that REAL quick
[11:16] Zada Bury: Save for the next meeting.
[11:16] Ginette Pinazzo: take your tiem...we need to eb easy on you, right? haha
[11:17] Ginette Pinazzo: I can just say the highlights, its a small one....
[11:18] Blondin (blondin.linden): sure go for it
[11:18] Ginette Pinazzo: THE PROBLEM..... Do an online search for the word Zindra and see the results: a lot of negative comments, articles and blog postings. Much of the material is a holdover from the time of debates and confusion during the Adult Content Changes and migration to Zindra. There is not much 'positive' material about Zindra YET. Anyone casually searching for information about Zindra might drown in the bad publicity.
[11:19] Ginette Pinazzo: THE SOLUTION..... To begin a campaign to spread good news and upgrade the image of Zindra, I propose a team form to brainstorm ideas about ways to create positive content all over the internet. There will be many ways to do this, and the more ideas we think of, the better. I suggest a team forms and meets (on its own time, of course) to create many ideas that will eventually be suitable for specific proposals.
[11:19] Ginette Pinazzo: STARTER IDEAS..... To kick off brainstorming, I have assembled some starter ideas on the website, a points of inspiration. (I wont botehr with those now).....
[11:19] Ginette Pinazzo: This is basically a call to people to join a brainstorming team that will meet throughout the upcoming weeks, to freely chat about ideas on a very big topic. Like our our brainstorming sessions, these will facilitated and kept 100% positive. The goal is to generate enough ideas that can result in real proposals later. I can say from sessions so far in other such teams, it's fun and relaxing, and always seems to generate new ideas.
[11:19] Ginette Pinazzo: FIN
[11:20] Blondin (blondin.linden): I think #7 on your list was working with Linden to make sure the wiki's are up to date with content on ZIndra
[11:20] Blondin (blondin.linden): very doable
[11:20] Ginette Pinazzo: yes good observation
[11:21] Ginette Pinazzo: thats one of the first easy to do items
[11:21] Blondin (blondin.linden): easy and least amount of work
[11:21] Ginette Pinazzo: the main wiki abt Zindra is hopelessly out of date
[11:21] Blondin (blondin.linden): is it?
[11:21] Blondin (blondin.linden): do you have a link?
[11:21] Ginette Pinazzo: sure...Ill tell you all abt it in anotehr meeting..hhaah
[11:22] Blondin (blondin.linden): awesome
[11:23] slothful Sloth (silvanus.northman): I would be for law & order on Zindra, its all chaotic at one side, and on the other hand, the business laments about their own build chaos....
[11:23] Blondin (blondin.linden): any questions or comments from the group?
[11:23] Ginette Pinazzo: I can get that link and present it at next meeting, maybe....its the one where you dotn even list the Zindra Expo group as a group (you ahve 2 otehrs though)
[11:24] Ginette Pinazzo: we do have few peoepl already signed up for the PR team..I am hoping for many more, since its a wide topic
[11:24] slothful Sloth (silvanus.northman): : )
[11:25] MystiTool HUD 1.3.1: Entering chat range: Chucky Takacs (19m)
[11:25] Blondin (blondin.linden): ok. sounds fair enough. Let me know what I can do to help!
[11:25] Ginette Pinazzo: I am watching the tiem...can we skip the slideshow kiosk item again and move on, so Zada and Q have canhec to speak after the Zindar Sim item
[11:25] Blondin (blondin.linden): Ill be more than happy to help update the Linden wikis
[11:26] Blondin (blondin.linden): yep
[11:26] Blondin (blondin.linden): https://sites.google.com/site/zindrabusiness/home/designer-slideshow-kiosks
[11:26] Blondin (blondin.linden): next item
[11:26] Couldbe (couldbe.yue): Is it possible to set up a general Zindra info/event group and leave the expo group to expo related matters?
[11:26] Trinity Robson is Offline
[11:26] slothful Sloth (silvanus.northman): old topic....
[11:26] Zada Bury: Zindra-name-change then, or?
[11:27] Ginette Pinazzo: next woudl be Zindar Sim name Change...this has ben reallyh a big issue..the more the days go on..everyday I run into it now
[11:27] Ginette Pinazzo: its very very frustrating...we are losing peoepl
[11:28] Zada Bury: Is ther also a time-fram, how long the rebuild of "actually poydan" will take?
[11:28] slothful Sloth (silvanus.northman): couldnt it help to just name a Parcel 'Zindra' on a mature rated SIM, so it would appear in search
[11:28] MystiTool HUD 1.3.1: Entering chat range: Redlag Mayo (12m)
[11:28] Ginette Pinazzo: no Silva..thats the rea;l problem..haviung any sim just caleld Zindra is killing us
[11:28] slothful Sloth (silvanus.northman): ok : )
[11:28] Blondin (blondin.linden): very good question from Zada and a good point from GInette.
[11:28] Ravena DeCuir is Online
[11:28] Ginette Pinazzo: Blondin. you ahve the right link
[11:29] Couldbe (couldbe.yue): Why is it a big issue Ginette?
[11:29] Lias (lias.leandros) is Offline
[11:29] Ginette Pinazzo: I thoroughly suggest peoepl read the entire proposla, but heer's the bascis (based on me dealing with this evey day when I do outreach)........
[11:29] Ginette Pinazzo: I see the problem every day, because I talk to people about the continent, some who have heard of it, some who have not and in almost every case, they open their Map and Search for Zindra. ....
[11:29] Blondin (blondin.linden): So, as for how long the build will take, I don't know. I've been ooo (out of office) for 2 weeks now. I know that the Moles are working on it. I don't know their timeline until I speak with Michael
[11:30] Ginette Pinazzo: Here are the 3 reactions I see every day:
[11:30] Ginette Pinazzo: 1. Some of them see the sim and say 'it looks empty. no traffic. Is that all?' and they never go further! (they dont even TP)
[11:30] Ginette Pinazzo: 2. Others TP there, see the basic information and clickable continent map there, and say: Is that all?'
[11:30] Ginette Pinazzo: 3. Others TP there, see the current Naughty Snowman event, and think that is all of Zindra.
[11:31] Ginette Pinazzo: My proposal is that, BEFORE we think about events, marketing or other aspects of Zindra Sim, we need to address Reaction 1: People who don't even TP because they see a sim called Zindra and they think 'that's all there is'. ....
[11:31] Ginette Pinazzo: In fact, before we even think about the controversial idea of switching the names of Podyan and Zindra Sim, we need to address Reaction 1. Why? Because, even if the sims move and change names, the same exact problem will exist. We'll still have a sim named Zindra (whether its a Mature or Adult sim...same problem)
[11:31] Ginette Pinazzo: thats the short version. again, I sugegst reading all of it .
[11:31] Qie (qie.niangao): For god's sake, don't remove the name Zindra before there's somewhere else you want to put it. Unless you want everybody TPing into the middle of the sim called "Zindra Ocean"
[11:31] Ginette Pinazzo: I dotn suggest ever removing Zindra...just modifying the name.......
[11:32] Ginette Pinazzo: I propose we honour LL's original intention to keep the sim's name 'Zindra' searchable so the sim can be found, but we modify the name so it is obviously NOT the continent. A name that lets people know this is a good sim to visit to START their exploration of the continent....
[11:32] Ginette Pinazzo: Examples: Zindra Portal, Zindra Quick Start Island, Zindra Entryway, Zindra Start Here, Zindra Info, Zindra Front Door, Zindra Update Center, Zindra 101, Zindra Hub, Capitol of Zindra, Zindra Center, etc etc
[11:32] Qie (qie.niangao): Okay, that works for me.
[11:32] Zada Bury: a friend in IM just suggested "Zindra Prime"
[11:32] Couldbe (couldbe.yue): well, that sounds meaningless
[11:33] Sissy Blitz: I dsagree Zindra is now known renaming it will look odd
[11:33] Ginette Pinazzo: the problem is huge. even peoepl who have been in SL for years think Zindra is an empty infohub and thats it
[11:33] Couldbe (couldbe.yue): just call it zindra welcome hub/centre then
[11:33] Ratsie Independent (ratatosk.independent): Personally, I think Zindra start here is excellent. Tells the story.
[11:33] Ginette Pinazzo: we are refrring to Zindra the SIM, not the continent (for those who dotn realize)
[11:33] slothful Sloth (silvanus.northman): i think, in fact, its to make ppl coming to Adult, where-ever, the residnets on Zindra have their parcesl, and need their peace... / so we already spoke about to lead ppl who are new to Adult-Content of SL
[11:34] Ginette Pinazzo: I love Zindra Start Here too...or Zindra Quick Start....seems on-point somehow
[11:34] Qie (qie.niangao): Zindra Landing, maybe
[11:34] Blondin (blondin.linden): Ok - here's a suggestion. Lets shelve this until we see what the Moles came back with as Podyan. And in the meantime, I can add a description to the Zindra sim that says soemthing like, Start Here or Open map to see more
[11:34] Ginette Pinazzo: oh that good G
[11:34] Ginette Pinazzo: *Q
[11:35] Sissy Blitz: Ok Blondin thankyou look forward to hearing what you come back with :)
[11:35] Ginette Pinazzo: that woudl be better than nothing Blondin.....but realize even after Podyan is doen and whatever name goes where...any simj just caleld Zindra 98without modification) is killing us
[11:35] Sissy Blitz: Blondin said he will get back to us ginette :)
[11:35] slothful Sloth (silvanus.northman): Qie, hows about to open the MAP when a resident touches your Zindra-Map on ZIndra?
[11:36] Ginette Pinazzo: I have ears Sissy
[11:36] Sissy Blitz: oh ?
[11:36] Blondin (blondin.linden): And ginette, we can pick this back up once we see Podyan. I just don't want to get ahead of ourselves before we know what we're working with
[11:36] Couldbe (couldbe.yue): a name change is not going to fix the problems that zindra has and it's stupid to pretend otherwise
[11:36] slothful Sloth (silvanus.northman): ok, so lets hear some construcive critic, Couldbe
[11:36] Qie (qie.niangao): silvanus, not sure what you mean... it is supposed to open the Map, unless it b0rked along the way
[11:36] Ginette Pinazzo: Couldyou....a name change affects what happens when peoepl open a map and search...I se it all the tiem
[11:37] Blondin (blondin.linden): Lets move on
[11:37] Couldbe (couldbe.yue): do you now? up until a couple of days ago I didn't realise you knew that people searched by map
[11:37] Blondin (blondin.linden): ZZada
[11:37] Blondin (blondin.linden): had a topic
[11:37] Blondin (blondin.linden): Protection from underage users
[11:37] Blondin (blondin.linden): ya?
[11:37] Zada Bury: Err ... yes.. "protection again underages" ... sounds funny, if we remember the talk about 2we need to break the search-firewall".
[11:37] Ginette Pinazzo: couldyou....what on earth are you talking about? drop it
[11:38] Zada Bury: The teens are on their G-land ... ok .. but they can IM us or we maybe enter a name wrong and start a chat and easy you are in an adult talk.
[11:39] Blondin (blondin.linden): yes I remember it. THe fact that you cant advertise out yes?
[11:39] Zada Bury: Is it possible to install a "protection", a kind of warning, if the resident is below 18?
[11:39] slothful Sloth (silvanus.northman): and a lot of profiles have typical Adult content
[11:39] Zada Bury: The regualr search seems to put some profiles as "mature" rated ... not all are show in general. but the people search will list all ... I think.
[11:39] Blondin (blondin.linden): what kind of protection did yu have in mind?
[11:40] Zada Bury: Well ... information in the profile, a message if you start an IM ...
[11:40] Zada Bury: ... no ide.
[11:40] Zada Bury: idea*
[11:40] Zada Bury: If you meet with someone on a General-rated land, you can't know "below 18, or over"
[11:41] Meowsters (meowsters.teskat) is Online
[11:41] Zada Bury: Same it, if a unknow resident IM you.
[11:41] slothful Sloth (silvanus.northman): another fact, Zada, is that all what is hidden and secret is double interesting for the teens
[11:41] Blondin (blondin.linden): if all else fails, you can ask them to meet you on an Adult region. I know you already know that, but just wanted to say it outloud
[11:42] slothful Sloth (silvanus.northman): just ask them about musicians of the early 70s ;)
[11:42] Ginette Pinazzo: hahaah
[11:42] Blondin (blondin.linden): ha sloth!
[11:42] MystiTool HUD 1.3.1: Entering chat range: Dancer Greenfield (18m)
[11:42] Zada Bury: Yes, sure, that is an option ... but not all time, you can meet. and if the parents look in the wrong moment on little-billeys screen, the damage is done.
[11:42] Qie (qie.niangao): I gather that stamping residents as underage is sort of like creating a directory for paedophiles... so I can live with not knowing, and just assuming everybody I don't know is a minor.
[11:42] Zada Bury: 70s musi c become covered ^.^
[11:43] Blondin (blondin.linden): Qie has a good point. No so much as a directory for child abusers, but it would def label them for persecution
[11:44] slothful Sloth (silvanus.northman): yes
[11:44] Blondin (blondin.linden): but the concern is a valid one
[11:44] Ginette Pinazzo: Blondin, can you think of a system thats in place already that could be modified somehow for this? anything at all?
[11:44] Blondin (blondin.linden): I get it. The same with teens being able to cam into M regions and buying content
[11:44] Zada Bury: I agree ... on other hand ... well all here have adult business, a lot content-creators ...
[11:44] Zada Bury: ... but some have also to do something wuth "social interacting"
[11:45] slothful Sloth (silvanus.northman): well, our kids already see all they want to see on their mobile-phones.....
[11:45] MystiTool HUD 1.3.1: Entering chat range: Storyof Oh (18m)
[11:45] Zada Bury: Also to that, I agree, Sil.
[11:45] Zada Bury: But Mom&Dad of Lillte-Blilly wiill sue you, what you have talk with their brats.
[11:45] slothful Sloth (silvanus.northman): maybe its more a discussion about the law of California and US
[11:46] slothful Sloth (silvanus.northman): and a human with 16 is not more a child
[11:46] Blondin (blondin.linden): SO Zada - as a nonanswer to your question - I'm not aware of anything that would label a profile as teen/under 18 and I think Qie's suggestion of just assuming that everyone IS underage from the get go would be the safest bet for now
[11:46] slothful Sloth (silvanus.northman): so I see no topic about paedophils...
[11:47] Zada Bury: MAybe a warnign is possible if an undergae IM you, like the message "redident is offline"?
[11:47] Blondin (blondin.linden): IE, keep your communications professional until you know otherwise
[11:47] slothful Sloth (silvanus.northman): yes Blondin
[11:47] MystiTool HUD 1.3.1: Entering chat range: Dancer Greenfield (2m)
[11:47] Sissy Blitz: they should be given a panic button if they are approached by preditors
[11:48] Zada Bury: It's ther... it'S called "abuse Report", Sissy.
[11:48] Sissy Blitz: other server use that technology
[11:48] slothful Sloth (silvanus.northman): teens will be the preditors...
[11:48] Qie (qie.niangao): it does appear that they'll be getting a teen-only refuge... although the name "Bonobos Isles" might use a re-think.
[11:48] Ginette Pinazzo: hahah whi coems up with these names!
[11:48] Blondin (blondin.linden): yes I saw that somewhere on twitter. Thats a dirty word or soemthing?
[11:49] Zada Bury: it's a pae ... or?
[11:49] Zada Bury: ape*
[11:49] Qie (qie.niangao): bonobos are a kind of hyper-sexual, hedonistic ape
[11:49] Storyof Oh: lollll
[11:49] Blondin (blondin.linden): fantastic. Name fail
[11:49] Couldbe (couldbe.yue): typical teen then
[11:49] Ginette Pinazzo: its obvisuly Cockney for something
[11:49] Blondin (blondin.linden): theres a music festival in the states called bonaroo
[11:50] Blondin (blondin.linden): not as bad as Burning Man
[11:50] Blondin (blondin.linden): but plenty of drug use
[11:50] MystiTool HUD 1.3.1: Entering chat range: Melvin Starbrook (12m)
[11:50] Ginette Pinazzo: we have an acvtion item for this topic? anyoen going to tink of ideas? or do we just stay polite?
[11:50] Zada Bury: Well.. maybe something come up until next week ... whe should come to Qui's point, or? "Future Office Hours"
[11:51] Blondin (blondin.linden): they should just divid the G continent into 2 halves. Call one Team Edward and the other Team JAcob
[11:51] Qie (qie.niangao): I see from wikipedia that the bonobo is also an endangered species... which some of the teens can probably identify with
[11:51] Blondin (blondin.linden): let the chips fall where they may
[11:51] slothful Sloth (silvanus.northman): seems the Adult fears the Teens more than the Teens the ADult ;)
[11:51] Blondin (blondin.linden): ok. Last but not least agenda item
[11:51] Ginette Pinazzo: (looks for vinegar for chips)
[11:52] Couldbe (couldbe.yue): well wasn't the main preoccupation on the teen grid little armies fighting each other? team this and team that is probably suitable
[11:52] Blondin (blondin.linden): Qie had something to talk about
[11:53] Qie (qie.niangao): well, I just wanted to know if these hours are expected to continue, in light of the changes in communication policy
[11:53] Zada Bury: (( You have not to take care for around 90+ residents, which are in "social" communications, Sil. ))
[11:53] slothful Sloth (silvanus.northman): : ) )
[11:53] MystiTool HUD 1.3.1: Entering chat range: Foxyfluff Byron (9m)
[11:54] slothful Sloth (silvanus.northman): that interesting Qie, didnt I pass something?
[11:54] Zada Bury: it's in the agenda: "From Michael's most recent (and last) office hour, it emerges that some Lindens are forbidden to hold office hours in future. What is the fate of these Zindra hours?"
[11:54] Blondin (blondin.linden): no immediate changes Qie
[11:54] Qie (qie.niangao): silvanus, I didn't see anything... I seem to be horribly chat-lagged, though
[11:55] slothful Sloth (silvanus.northman): ok ... my question is answere, ty Zada
[11:55] Qie (qie.niangao): okay, thanks Blondin.
[11:55] Blondin (blondin.linden): your welcome.
[11:55] Blondin (blondin.linden): :)
[11:56] Zada Bury: Well. someting new, you can tell us from the LAb, Blondin?
[11:56] Blondin (blondin.linden): something new???
[11:56] Blondin (blondin.linden): hmm...let me think
[11:56] Zada Bury: New-coffemaching from new boss ...
[11:57] Ginette Pinazzo: I know one burning question
[11:57] Dancer Greenfield: Who's gonna be fired next week?
[11:57] Blondin (blondin.linden): well - I'll be taking a trip out to HQ the week of the 31st. Not really the news your looking for but I"M excited by it
[11:58] Zada Bury: cool ... send us pictures.
[11:58] slothful Sloth (silvanus.northman): do you Twitter, Blondin?
[11:58] Ginette Pinazzo: remember to pack yoru lunch
[11:58] Melvin's Windup key: Melvin Starbrook's windup key has run out.
[11:58] Qie (qie.niangao): Is Rod Humble holding an "all hands" then, maybe?
[11:58] Blondin (blondin.linden): http://twitter.com/#!/BlondinLinden
[11:58] Storyof Oh: not calling people in to fire them i hope
[11:58] Blondin (blondin.linden): its not an All hands
[11:58] slothful Sloth (silvanus.northman): TY
[11:58] Qie (qie.niangao): oh
[11:58] Ginette Pinazzo: Blondin, do you ahve answer to the burning question from 3 weeks ago?
[11:59] MystiTool HUD 1.3.1: Entering chat range: Adorabella Felisimo (19m)
[12:01] Blondin (blondin.linden): so, there's been some debate over some dates to use Expo land. I told Lias before I left that I wanted to see her proposal for the Unzipped event by the time I got back or the dates would not be held
[12:02] Blondin (blondin.linden): It wasn't on the agenda. Nor is she here. But I haven't gotten a chance to go through all my emails yet so perhaps it's there waiting for me.
[12:02] Ginette Pinazzo: As the rules state, a proposal must be published for a minimum of one week before even submitting it. These things can't be rushed....
[12:02] Ginette Pinazzo: they had weeks to do it, but never have..and it suppsoed to be done publicly anyway
[12:03] slothful Sloth (silvanus.northman): and that reffers back to another topic: Quality standard on Zindra.....
[12:03] Sissy Blitz: The propsal will on this site at 3pm http://unzippedzindra2011.blogspot.com
[12:03] Ginette Pinazzo: We have a team of people who have worked hard and are very motivated to do the next ZEXPO right, and that's what this proposal is all about, and why it's been published for review for many weeks now.
[12:03] Foxyfluff Byron: I have a facebook. http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000029179611
[12:03] Blondin (blondin.linden): I understand GInette. And today was the deadline I set.
[12:03] Blondin (blondin.linden): unfortuantely, it's 12 and I have to jet
[12:03] Blondin (blondin.linden): Thanks all
[12:04] Ginette Pinazzo: Lias never did a real proposla...and still has not.....we cant allow for this type of preferential treatment...shed had every chance
[12:04] Blondin (blondin.linden): ttyl!
[12:04] Dancer Greenfield: Off to dinner!
[12:04] Storyof Oh: thanks Blondin
[12:04] Qie (qie.niangao): thanks Blondin.
[12:04] Sissy Blitz: Thankyou Blondin
[12:04] Ginette Pinazzo: ciao
[12:04] Dancer Greenfield: Bye Blondin
[12:04] Ginette Pinazzo: and there he poofs
[12:04] Zada Bury: Oh ... I have Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/56721717@N08/
[12:04] slothful Sloth (silvanus.northman): I would like to be able to do this RL
[12:04] Ginette Pinazzo: oh Zada, whats that?
[12:04] Zada Bury: some else, who have something? ^.^
[12:05] Adorabella Felisimo: is anyone going to publish a transript of this meeting?
[12:05] Dancer Greenfield: His colleagues were tapping him on the shoulder
[12:05] Qie (qie.niangao): okay folks... I gotta run to RL... have fun folks.
[12:05] Zada Bury: Sissy a proposan, Foxy his Facebook, be Flickr ^.^
[12:05] Ginette Pinazzo: take care Q

Transcript for Monday Dec 20th 2010 Community meeting

[10:59] Ginette Pinazzo: hi Force
[10:59] Forceme Silverspar: 'ello there, hiya Sissy.
[10:59] MystiTool HUD 1.0.21: Entering chat range: Zada Bury (8m)
[10:59] Ginette Pinazzo: Hi Sissy
[10:59] Sissy Blitz: Hello Forceme :)
[10:59] Sissy Blitz: Hello Ginette :))
[10:59] Ginette Pinazzo: Hi Zadz
[11:00] Zada Bury: heya all ^_^
[11:00] MystiTool HUD 1.0.21: Entering chat range: Qie Niangao (7m)
[11:00] Forceme Silverspar: HIy Zada
[11:00] Ginette Pinazzo: Zadz..where is my chocolate you shoudl have promised?
[11:00] Sissy Blitz: Hello Zada
[11:00] Zada Bury: ok ... who have tell Blondin, he should wait outside for the surprise party?
[11:01] Blondin Linden: ha
[11:01] Blondin Linden: did I spoil it?
[11:01] Ginette Pinazzo: Hi Blondin
[11:01] Zada Bury: may we have hide a Snowball for you ^.^
[11:01] Zada Bury: oh ... them >_<
[11:01] Blondin Linden: I unfortuantely, only have 30 minutes today
[11:01] Blondin Linden: so we should get to it
[11:02] Zada Bury: kk then we better hurry
[11:02] Blondin Linden: first and for most, I want to add that I'll be on holiday until Jan 10th
[11:02] Lias Leandros: Not many agenda items anyway
[11:02] Blondin Linden: So I wont be around :/
[11:02] Zada Bury: sad to hear ... enjoy your time
[11:02] Ginette Pinazzo: is there a plan for your absence?
[11:02] Dancer Greenfield: Holidays aren't sad
[11:03] Dancer Greenfield: Are they?
[11:03] Blondin Linden: Ill sync up with both GInette and Colleen about the their events sometime this week
[11:03] Blondin Linden: just to make sure everything is covered
[11:03] Blondin Linden: ok. First up on the agenda was Ginette's item
[11:03] Blondin Linden: ZEXPO 2011
[11:04] Ginette Pinazzo: yes....have you glanmced over it Blondin? that will make this faster if yo did
[11:04] Blondin Linden: very quickly I looked at it
[11:04] Ginette Pinazzo: ok..Ill try to sum up.....
[11:04] Ginette Pinazzo: Past April, we had ZEXPO 2010...(which stands for Zindra Expo...for those who have forgotten!)......a truly miraculous event that was miraculous that it happened at all...... Despite many challenges, including a competing event 2 weeks before, and mind-boggling planning setbacks, ZEXPO 2010 happened. Many of those involved in that spectacle have been involved with this proposal, a proposal thats sets out to do 3 things:........
[11:05] Ginette Pinazzo: 1. to do it right, which means without all of the problems from last time.....(keeping it no-stress and fun. This is achieved by ample planning time and a friendly, teamwork attitude)...
[11:05] Ginette Pinazzo: 2. to make it unique. Because events on the zexpo Island must be very unique to get approval (unique enough people will age verofy to come to them from all over). I believe this proposal is very unique indeed.....
[11:05] Ginette Pinazzo: 3. to reach out and draw new talent into the show, from all over Zindra AND beyond, to expand the talent pool so we can have real growth.............
[11:06] Ginette Pinazzo: I wont read all of this...just the highlights (to be fast)
[11:06] Ginette Pinazzo: CONCEPT......
[11:06] Ginette Pinazzo: A showcase of the passion, talent and entrepreneurial spirit of Zindra, this year's ZEXPO will blend education with entertainment, play with shopping, artistic exhibition with inspirational messages, to give visitors a positive and exciting impression of SL's 'adult continent'. An island packed with things to see, do and experience, ZEXPO 2011 will maintain a healthy and engaging message, to encourage guests to learn, indulge and become involved in everything Zindra has to offer.......
[11:06] Ginette Pinazzo: Ill next mentiona few of the features of the proposal, unless you bhave an early comment now Blondin....
[11:07] Blondin Linden: nope, go for it
[11:07] Ginette Pinazzo: MESSAGE...... The team will draft a 'show message' that is positive and we will do our best to adhere to that message in every aspect of the event. Our goal is to use this message as a standard for marketing, content and public relations.......
[11:08] Ginette Pinazzo: ISLAND LAYOUT...... Designers will be utilized to plan a beautiful layout, that integrates all aspects of ZEXPO into a fluid environment, with intuitive pathways that encourage moving traffic and expose visitors to everything the show offers. An effort will be made to attract 'famous' designer(s) to do the layout (which is something we can cross promote) No arbitrary divisions, but a layout based on intuitive exploration. Exhibitors will have many options regarding display areas, and may even be present at multiple locations depending upon display types. We may have some 'design' standards available for all Exhibitors so their individual displays relate (in some way) to the overall layout, to allow for a consistent 'show look''......
[11:08] Ginette Pinazzo: (we will solicit from all ovber SL to get the best design ideas froma 'name' designer)
[11:08] Ginette Pinazzo: EXHIBITORS...... Every possible type of exhibitor will be accommodated for ZEXPO 2011, with the following 'types' as examples: Entertainers, Educators, Merchants, Play Areas, Visual Artists, etc If we discover an Exhibitor who does not 'fit' our categories, we will create a new category. Our plan will be one of a inclusiveness, a 'can-do' attitude....... Exhibitors will have the option to choose multiple types (when relevant) and have multiple displays to highlight those specific aspects of their business/message....... Example: Happy Heather's might have a spot to sell custom rocking chairs, and also a mini-park set up where people can play on those chairs, and also a stage where they do a live show, involving those chairs. (Exhibitors will also be able to book 'event time' as part of their options)......
[11:09] MystiTool HUD 1.0.21: Entering chat range: diedo Loopen (19m)
[11:09] Ginette Pinazzo: RADIO...... We will create a custom ZEXPO radio station with exclusive ZEXPO and Zindra-related commercials, for use during the event AND available to anyone who wants to use the stream in the weeks leading up to the event. We will also offer commercial spots to any Exhibitors.......
[11:09] Ginette Pinazzo: PRE PARTIES...... We will encourage many 'pre parties' hosted by any interested Exhibitors at their own location in the weeks leading up to the event, to increase interest and involvement. Our team will provide basic pre-party decor, ZEXPO themed items and a good cross promotional opportunity for these parties.......
[11:09] Ginette Pinazzo: SHOW GUIDE...... The ZEXPO 2011 Ultimate Guide will contain every attraction, event and promotion connected to the show and this publication will be available at least 1 week (hopefully more) before show start. Any last-minute changes will be on an addendum that exists online and at the show Landing Point.......
[11:10] Ginette Pinazzo: and this ;last part is my personal favourite.........
[11:10] Ginette Pinazzo: HOTELS...... Just like any convention or trade show, it's fun to travel and stay at special accomodations near the show. We will try to start a new idea: finding 'SL hotels' that will create special rooms, across the water, for Zexpo guests to book in advance. Hotel guests will be able to ride a ferry (or some vehicle) across the water to the show, and booking a hotel room might also include special benefits at the show. This could become avery fun part of ZEXPO! (everyone knows the fun parties happen in the hotels)......
[11:10] Dancer Greenfield: Haha
[11:10] MystiTool HUD 1.0.21: Entering chat range: Counter Landfall (19m)
[11:10] Dancer Greenfield: I like that too
[11:11] Ginette Pinazzo: so far we have about 8 committed team members, who have longe xperience with events including most from last zexpo....
[11:11] Ginette Pinazzo: FIN
[11:11] Forceme Silverspar: Bravo!
[11:11] Ginette Pinazzo: thats your highlights
[11:11] Zada Bury: Sounds funny
[11:11] MystiTool HUD 1.0.21: Entering chat range: AdoraBella Avro (18m)
[11:11] Counter Landfall: Hi everyone
[11:11] Blondin Linden: any questions from the group?
[11:11] Dancer Greenfield: There were a lot of problems last year, I hope we can learn from them
[11:11] Dancer Greenfield: My main question is: when?
[11:11] Dancer Greenfield: and how long?
[11:11] Counter Landfall accepted your inventory offer.
[11:11] Blondin Linden: i think when is TBA
[11:11] Dancer Greenfield: Last year was 10 days, wasn't it?
[11:11] Ginette Pinazzo: in nmentions in the proposal perhaps 2 weeks duration
[11:11] AdoraBella Avro: I have a personal request for Blondin
[11:12] Qie Niangao: So, what are the related action items to come from this meeting? And what is the process for establishing a date?
[11:12] Ginette Pinazzo: Blondin..Ill say this..this proposal is fully finished (outside any changes of course)...I think that its ready to go asap
[11:12] Zada Bury: Maybe a bit longer this year? the showcase? a lot doing much work for builds on the event ... and if it not collides with an other event on the island ...?
[11:13] Blondin Linden: well, I think the action item is to take the time to read through the proposal and make comments
[11:13] Dancer Greenfield: We decide the dates in this round, don't we?
[11:13] Ginette Pinazzo: no..the dates are alwasy negotiated with LL...thats in the Island propsoal proccess
[11:13] Blondin Linden: we'll figure out some dates
[11:13] Blondin Linden: im not to worrried about it
[11:14] Dancer Greenfield: My preference is for early April, but AFTER April 3rd
[11:14] Lias Leandros: haha
[11:14] Qie Niangao: well... but this can drift on for months and months if there's no anchor set on the calendar.
[11:14] Ginette Pinazzo: last zexspo was in April
[11:14] Counter Landfall: it was not
[11:14] Lias Leandros: Unzipped is April
[11:14] Counter Landfall: it was in May
[11:14] Blondin Linden: well, i think April is taken :/
[11:14] MystiTool HUD 1.0.21: Entering chat range: Foxyfluff Byron (4m)
[11:14] Ginette Pinazzo: I say events that have proposals shoudl carry weight , Blondin.......to be fair....ther cant be any 'reserving' of land without that
[11:15] Zada Bury: May we can have on the Wiki-Page also soem "event-plan"?
[11:15] Dancer Greenfield: April 3rd is daylight savings change for Australia/NZ... it would be good to avoid that
[11:15] Ginette Pinazzo: unzipped is tentative.......
[11:15] Lias Leandros: every event proposed has a proposal
[11:15] Lias Leandros: here is the timeline
[11:15] Zada Bury: so we see also to other events , which are there ... like the "bedfair" and so on
[11:15] Lias Leandros: and you can touch it and get the notecard version
[11:16] Ginette Pinazzo: Blondin, if you let peoepl reserve land without actual full proposals, it preferebtial treatment...just saying
[11:16] Blondin Linden: in the name of time, I think we should move on
[11:16] Ginette Pinazzo: bed fair is tentative, as is unzipped
[11:16] Lias Leandros: Unzipped has a full proposal and the URL is listed in Blondin's wiki
[11:16] Blondin Linden: bc the isssue of schedule is important for the Unzipped team as well
[11:16] Dancer Greenfield: Is Unzipped official yet? I didn't think the proposal is ready yet
[11:16] Lias Leandros: nice try Ginette
[11:16] Zada Bury: (( rezzing))
[11:16] Lias Leandros: Dancer
[11:16] Ginette Pinazzo: lias..its not 'nice try'...how dare you
[11:16] Lias Leandros: you cannot step on the dates of other's events and consider yourself being right
[11:16] Lias Leandros: such nonsense
[11:17] Dancer Greenfield: Unzipped can't fix a date until after the proposal is ready
[11:17] Ginette Pinazzo: you are the one who steps....now dont do this in public
[11:17] Lias Leandros: Why would you choose the dates proposed by Unzipped when there are months not being used there?
[11:17] Lias Leandros: its just trouble making
[11:17] MystiTool HUD 1.0.21: Entering chat range: Evelynn Kidd (19m)
[11:17] Blondin Linden: Lias, Im looking at your timeline and right away, I noitce you're going to have to push back the first two dates
[11:17] Counter Landfall: we can fix it enough to say we need the sims for april month
[11:17] Ginette Pinazzo: unzipped did not even do a propsoal yet! thats a fact
[11:17] Lias Leandros: Ok Blondin
[11:17] Lias Leandros: thats not an issue
[11:17] Counter Landfall: is that presise enough for you?
[11:18] Lias Leandros: anyone can touch the board and get the draft of the timeline
[11:18] Ginette Pinazzo: I saw their 'proposal'...its a bare outlione.......
[11:18] Dancer Greenfield: We can discuss Unzipped's dates next year, there's no rush
[11:18] Lias Leandros: 5 Minute auto return:-)
[11:18] AdoraBella Avro: very true, lets move on please
[11:18] Lias Leandros: We are discussing all events for 2011 Now Dancer
[11:18] MystiTool HUD 1.0.21: Entering chat range: Kimiko Yiyuan (8m)
[11:19] Ginette Pinazzo: Blondin.....they even chnaged the name of their evnent to cause mroe confusion...this is unacceptable
[11:19] Lias Leandros: Since Zexpo is just a copy of the planning that COunter developed anyway
[11:19] Lias Leandros: Ginette comeon
[11:19] Lias Leandros: COunter developed this event
[11:19] Ginette Pinazzo: it was Zindra Unzipped...now its Unzipped Zindra Expo...I have ALREADY heard from peoepl are confusd
[11:19] Kimiko Yiyuan: Hello all.
[11:19] Lias Leandros: Ginete this was proposed before Zexpo
[11:19] Zada Bury: Welcome Kimiko
[11:19] Lias Leandros: two tiumes in a row
[11:19] Foxyfluff Byron waves to Kimiko
[11:19] Lias Leandros: and you decided to propose zexpo anyway
[11:19] Dancer Greenfield: Unzipped hasn't even been planned yet... let's put off the discussion till next year
[11:20] Ginette Pinazzo: it was discussed but never proposed...we need have procedure for a reason
[11:20] Kimiko Yiyuan waves back
[11:20] Lias Leandros: after this was proposed first
[11:20] Lias Leandros: No one wants your dates foryour events
[11:20] Dancer Greenfield: Zexpo is proposed, Unzipped is still in the early planning stages
[11:20] Qie Niangao: so anyway: what do we want from Blondin as an action for the Unzipped agenda item?
[11:20] Lias Leandros: no
[11:20] Lias Leandros: uzipped was prposed a month ago before you proposed Zexpo
[11:20] Lias Leandros: look at the trabnscripts
[11:20] Ginette Pinazzo: lias ...you are dead wrong as usual.....go l,ookm up 'tentative'
[11:21] Second Life: Your object 'Unzipped Zindra Time Line (A)' has been returned to your inventory lost and found folder by Governor Linden from parcel 'Kama City Municipal Park' at Bronlen 120, 215 due to parcel auto return.
[11:21] Lias Leandros: That does not mena you try to take the dates
[11:21] Lias Leandros: thats not nice
[11:21] Sissy Blitz: Ginette dont be to disrespectful
[11:21] Ginette Pinazzo: Sissy.. dont turn this on me...I know what i am talking about
[11:21] Lias Leandros: Blondin we have an actual timeline
[11:21] Qie Niangao: seriously: if there's no action expected, shall we skip to the *next* item?
[11:21] Ginette Pinazzo: a timeline is not a proposal
[11:21] AdoraBella Avro: you guys have fun, see ya
[11:21] Lias Leandros: yes I aree Qie
[11:22] Lias Leandros: a proposal without a timeline is not a proposal
[11:22] Zada Bury: well, for today next item, or? 8 minutes left
[11:22] Dancer Greenfield: I don't want to discuss dates now, but since Unzipped seems similar to Zexpo how about having it 6 months after Zexpo? That way we can have spring and fall shows
[11:22] Blondin Linden: ok. Here is what we are going do
[11:22] Lias Leandros: Zexpo is the same as Unzipped because COunter developed Unzipped before Zexpo
[11:22] Counter Landfall: why don't we just let her have it. so she can claim LL gave her 4 sims for her private use
[11:23] Lias Leandros: not at all COunter
[11:23] Ginette Pinazzo: the island process is very specific....you have not even come close to it...besides, you openly hated it anyway........so whats the confusion? doa propeor proposal THEN submit...thats the order
[11:23] Counter Landfall: that is how you act Ginette
[11:23] Lias Leandros: I have the website made
[11:23] Lias Leandros: and the positions developed
[11:23] Lias Leandros: and the timeline
[11:23] Ginette Pinazzo: pribate use? plea.se......who wants to have ZA evenst on LL land? thats private
[11:23] Lias Leandros: that follows Ginette's guidelines
[11:24] Blondin Linden: I'm going to hold the dates tentativly for the Unzipped event as long as I have a proosal that looks like what we've outlined by the time I get back from Holiday. You have a lot of the infomation already but are missing a few things I would like to see. Also, I'd like to see it all on one page so I don't have to hunt around for it .
[11:24] Counter Landfall: Ginette, let me be very private with you for a change and tell you why I dont have the time to sit in SL these days.
[11:24] Counter Landfall: MY fater is dying
[11:24] Blondin Linden: http://sites.google.com/site/zindrabusiness/home/zexpo-island-seasonal-events-campaign
[11:24] Counter Landfall: I dont have the time to sit and make proposals
[11:24] Blondin Linden: That link is what I'd like to see.
[11:24] Lias Leandros: Ok Blondin' thank you
[11:24] Ginette Pinazzo: then thats too bad counter..Im sorry about that....but that how things get donme in a responsible way
[11:24] Counter Landfall: so you yeild a couple more weeks, ok [11:25] Zada Bury: I think there is nothing for "private use" ... and sorry to hear, Counter.
[11:25] Ginette Pinazzo: there counter...youve gotteneven more preferential treatment...enjoy
[11:25] Lias Leandros: With the snowman build COunter had RL and passed it to Colleen and then Colleen had issues and asked that some of us help and we did
[11:25] Counter Landfall: thanks
[11:25] Lias Leandros: so there shows community helping one another
[11:26] Blondin Linden: If I get back and dont see proposal like its outlined on the link above, then the time slot will go to the next event, which is the Zexpo
[11:26] Blondin Linden: Also, keep the name Unzipped
[11:26] Counter Landfall: and now you know what the RL issue was
[11:26] Blondin Linden: just to keep things simple
[11:26] Blondin Linden: please
[11:26] Lias Leandros: I think we have established a good working relationship with quite few residents - And we did not include anyone that is not a Zindran in the event
[11:26] Blondin Linden: Thanks
[11:26] Ginette Pinazzo: yes do not change your event to Unzipped Zindra Expo...thats causes public confusion
[11:26] Blondin Linden: next item
[11:26] Blondin Linden: Designer Slideshow Kiosks
[11:26] Lias Leandros: Its nt confusion when he came up with a Expo event last year anyway
[11:26] Ginette Pinazzo: lias...change the name asap
[11:27] Lias Leandros: lol
[11:27] Ginette Pinazzo: Bloindin, that item can wait in the interst of time
[11:27] MystiTool HUD 1.0.21: Entering chat range: Arthas Scorpio (8m)
[11:27] Lias Leandros: Blondin Colleen could not be here but can you turn build off on Zindra?
[11:27] Blondin Linden: thanks GInette
[11:28] Blondin Linden: And the last item Im going to skip bc there is no name assciated with it
[11:28] Ginette Pinazzo: yes, whats with the anonymus agenda item? haha
[11:28] Lias Leandros: Oh Im sorry that was me
[11:28] Lias Leandros: Ill add it in January
[11:28] Ginette Pinazzo: haha
[11:28] Blondin Linden: kk thanks
[11:28] Lias Leandros: haha
[11:28] Blondin Linden: alright all
[11:28] Lias Leandros: have a good holiday Blondin
[11:29] Ginette Pinazzo: cioa Blondin
[11:29] Forceme Silverspar: Byebye
[11:29] Zada Bury: enjoy the holiday ...
[11:29] Blondin Linden: Ginette and Colleen, who isnt here, I'll be in touch
[11:29] Blondin Linden: Thanks all!
[11:29] Zada Bury: ... we will miss you.
[11:29] Dancer Greenfield: Bye Blondin
[11:29] Dancer Greenfield: Have a good time
[11:29] Ginette Pinazzo: ah...30 minutes isnt so bad, bow is it? ugh
[11:29] Kimiko Yiyuan: Bye Blondin.
[11:29] Counter Landfall: Bye and a Merry Christmas to you Blondin
[11:29] Zada Bury: (( is it safe now to take the protection hat off? ))
[11:29] Kimiko Yiyuan: Happy Holidays
[11:29] Evelynn Kidd: when will the next meeting be?
[11:29] Foxyfluff Byron: Mele Kalikimaka
[11:29] Zada Bury: 10 jan
[11:29] Counter Landfall: next year I guess
[11:30] Dancer Greenfield: I'm surprised we had a meeting at all today in Christmas week
[11:30] Zada Bury: for these who have miss: "[11:02] Blondin Linden: first and for most, I want to add that I'll be on holiday until Jan 10th"
[11:30] Qie Niangao: So, Lias, are you taking the ball for munging the Unzipped info into the Standard Approved Format?
[11:31] Lias Leandros: yes
[11:31] Lias Leandros: I will try

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TRANSCRIPT for the November 29th 2010 Community Meeting with Blondin

[10:53] Qie Niangao: Agenda notwithstanding, I'd like to ask a quick yes-or-no question: Will there be some special content filtering ability to prevent the 16- and 17-year olds from seeing and interacting with non-General-rated content on adjacent, Adult- or Mature-rated sims? (I don't want to spend time discussing details, I just think it's a burning question for many.)
[10:54] colleen Criss: I vote no
[10:54] colleen Criss: hello Hypatia
[10:55] Hypatia Meili: Hi everyone
[10:55] Qie Niangao: Hi Hypatia
[10:55] Lias Leandros: well I a not sure that is an agenda concern Qie
[10:55] Lias Leandros: Hi Hypatia
[10:55] colleen Criss: its not on agenda
[10:55] Lias Leandros: its not a Zindra concern I meant
[10:55] colleen Criss: and will not be solved in this OH
[10:56] Lias Leandros: 'begging Linden Lab to further isolate us from the consumers does not sound like we are going in the right direction
[10:56] Lias~ AKEYO_PowerAO_PricelessGirl-SloMo_HUD (v 1.9): Typing override: Off
[10:56] Lias~ AKEYO_PowerAO_PricelessGirl-SloMo_HUD (v 1.9): Sit anywhere: On
[10:56] Qie Niangao: Well, that's just it: it's not on the agenda. but if folks don't want me to ask it, I won't ask it. It's very tangentially related to Zindra, inasmuch as, at present, Adult sims on Estates can have General sims adjacent... so could in theory set up Shared Media peep shows for the youngsters, across the sim border.
[10:56] Hypatia Meili: further isolate? dont know what your discusing bu that does not sound good
[10:57] colleen Criss: Q Id take those concerns directly to the LAB
[10:57] Lias Leandros: But Qie, we dont represent parent groups
[10:57] colleen Criss: thats thier baby
[10:57] Lias Leandros: what do we care if teens see porn in SL?
[10:57] colleen Criss: as we see we wont change thier minds on it but good luck
[10:57] Qie Niangao: we care because it's something the Estates can do that Zindra can't
[10:58] Qie Niangao: unless the estates *can't*
[10:58] Lias Leandros: So crippling estates to the level that we are crippled wont help us
[10:58] colleen Criss: they can go to A and age verified for an extra safety measure now but thats about it and NOT a solution
[10:58] Silvanus Northman: Hi all together
[10:58] Qie Niangao: okay, fuck it then.
[10:59] colleen Criss: hello Sil, Bady
[10:59] Bady Boozehound: Hello party people !
[11:00] Zada Bury: greetings around
[11:00] Hypatia Meili: both curent vefication methods suck , but i would recomend blocking one or th other or requiring both
[11:00] colleen Criss: hello Zada
[11:00] Lias Leandros: It's hard to cover the first agenda item aboutthe Holiday Message from the Zindra SIm if Counter is not here since he is th eone approved to develop the Holiday ebent on ZIndra this year
[11:00] Qie Niangao: kind of out of lead time for that event, seems to me
[11:00] Silvanus Northman: Hi Blondin
[11:00] Hypatia Meili: might as well close down then
[11:00] Qie Niangao: Hi Blondin
[11:01] Ginette Pinazzo: he has not been approved because he did not do a proposal....anywya. the agenda item stands
[11:01] Hypatia Meili: Hi Blondin
[11:01] Ginette Pinazzo: Hi Blonmdin
[11:01] Lias Leandros: he has been approved
[11:01] colleen Criss: hello Blondin
[11:01] Lias Leandros: period
[11:01] Lias Leandros: and you cannot just say you will now develop a holiday messaage on the sim of Zindra because you wantto
[11:01] Ginette Pinazzo: ni lias...wromg again..read the wiki
[11:01] colleen Criss: shall we dig up the text of Blondin telling him he was approved for the event Gina?
[11:01] Blondin Linden: hi all. Looks like Im walking into the middle of it!
[11:01] colleen Criss: it exists
[11:01] Ginette Pinazzo: you dotn even know my message yet so relax
[11:02] Lias Leandros: You ghave no right to make one for the sim of Zindra
[11:02] colleen Criss: ok lets get to this huh
[11:02] Ginette Pinazzo: whatever.....how was yoru holiday Blondin?
[11:02] Lias Leandros: you are pouncing on Counter's small event
[11:02] Blondin Linden: well lets get started
[11:02] Lias Leandros: when you should be concenbtrating on your large event
[11:03] Hypatia Meili: can i ask if you will be at your other OH this week?
[11:03] Blondin Linden: Im gunna work right down the list since I didnt update it last week due to my canceling the OH
[11:03] Zada Bury: So, how are you this week, Blondin?
[11:03] Zada Bury: heya Blondin.#
[11:03] Blondin Linden: Yeah I think so Hypa
[11:03] Hypatia Meili: ok :)
[11:03] Blondin Linden: 1) Zindra Sim Holiday Message
[11:03] Ginette Pinazzo: we are finally reaching out across Zindra and beyond.....we need ot keep this meetings professional......one agenda item ata time
[11:03] Ginette Pinazzo: ok Im ready with my message
[11:03] Ginette Pinazzo: its hort.......
[11:03] Blondin Linden: Is this still an issue? Was it time sensitive for Thanksgiving?
[11:03] Ginette Pinazzo: *short!
[11:04] Ginette Pinazzo: Originally my message was more complex, because of the Zindar Sim issue etc. But as its practically December already, time to plan anything is almost nonexistant......so here is my very simplified message.....
[11:04] Lias Leandros: unbelievable
[11:04] Ginette Pinazzo: I suggest we set aside one of these Monday OH meetings as a Holiday party.....(pick a date) ........no meeting...no agenda...just a party...but Blondin will still need to show up!............
[11:04] Ginette Pinazzo: I think the group needs this cheer after all the drama and crisis. I think for many people, these OH meetings are a chore and very unpleasant, and many of us would love a chance to relax and try to reconnect as friends or make new friends......
[11:04] Qie Niangao: Blondin, I think it just has to be ready to go by the time Winterfest starts.
[11:05] Ginette Pinazzo: A chance to 'unwind' and celebrate the progress we have made and to think positively about next year. .......
[11:05] Ginette Pinazzo: FIN
[11:06] Qie Niangao: That's fine, Ginette, just has nothing to do with the agenda topic. So, I presume we're still on for the snowman contest, once Counter gets back.
[11:06] Blondin Linden: I think a party sounds nice :) Maybe we should hear from the ZA and see what they had in mind for the snowman building contest. I know they wanted it to be a bit more involved than just that.
[11:06] Ginette Pinazzo: no Qie..that IS my agenda topic
[11:06] Blondin Linden: and then tie the party into that
[11:07] Qie Niangao: Okay, that's fine then. I assume Counter has his plans underway.
[11:07] Lias Leandros: I will suugest a 'grab bag' script to Counter - where we all can drop gifts and then people can touch and randomly receive a 'present'
[11:07] Ginette Pinazzo: its already Dec, bascially...and counter has said he wont doa proposal for the snowman contest...at last meeting anyway
[11:07] Lias Leandros: like those dumsters
[11:07] Blondin Linden: lets wait and see what Counter and the ZA have pulled togehter.
[11:07] Lias Leandros: OK
[11:07] Ginette Pinazzo: all I am saying is that we do one of these Monday meetings as a simple party
[11:07] colleen Criss: believes Blondin did not require one
[11:08] Qie Niangao: Thanks. Blondin.
[11:08] Ginette Pinazzo: read the wiki colleen
[11:08] Blondin Linden: what do people think about that? setting aside a meeting in 2 weeks for a party?
[11:08] colleen Criss: again I do not recall Blondin asking for one
[11:08] Lias Leandros: Ginette how about using the grab bag idea where we all drop a gift and get a gift?
[11:08] Blondin Linden: ie - no agenda, just dancing
[11:08] colleen Criss: this has nothing to do with the islands
[11:08] Lias Leandros: oh
[11:09] Qie Niangao: Sounds good to me, Blondin... or maybe a little later, depending on your schedule, to coincide with the Winterfest stuff.
[11:09] Lias Leandros: I thought that agenda item mentioned the sim of ZIndra - I apoligize
[11:09] Ginette Pinazzo: I thinka simple party for this group would help.......dancing, drinking, etc
[11:09] Lias Leandros: what about the grab bag Ginette?
[11:09] colleen Criss: Id contribute to a grab bag its a nice idea
[11:10] Lias Leandros: Ginette refuses to acknowledge me
[11:10] Ginette Pinazzo: a grab bag for a party here? why not
[11:10] Lias Leandros: next agenda item then please
[11:10] Blondin Linden: Ok. So how about MOnday the 10th - instead of an OH here, we meet over on Zindra or somewhere, set some music and have a party
[11:10] Lias Leandros: so just give Blondin the grab bag and he can drop it here
[11:10] Ginette Pinazzo: Blondin...are you interested in thsi idea..to choose a OH date to have a party?
[11:11] Blondin Linden: I'll turn Rez on so it'll BYOP (Bring your own Prims)
[11:11] Ginette Pinazzo: (marks calendar)..soudsn good to me
[11:11] Lias Leandros: then we can fill it at each meeting until the day its available to take stuff from it
[11:11] Silvanus Northman: : )
[11:11] colleen Criss: I can make a santa bag for it
[11:12] Ginette Pinazzo: Blondin., my ORIGINAL holiday message DID relate to the Zindra Sim etc ...but as counter never proposed..thats why I simplfied the message...if he IS still trying to move forward, I will wanmt to amke that full message anotehr time
[11:12] Blondin Linden: So the next item is on there 2X
[11:12] Blondin Linden: 2) Zindra Expo Group Charte
[11:12] Blondin Linden: So I took a look at both GInette's and Lias' suggestions.
[11:12] Ginette Pinazzo: A few weeks ago, I presented an updated charter for the Zindra Expo group, written in conjunction with about 12 other members......
[11:13] Lias Leandros: and it was not good
[11:13] Ginette Pinazzo: thsat is your opinion Lias.....many otehrs disagree with you
[11:13] Blondin Linden: Ginette's felt a little too community based/driven for what I had in mind and Lias' sounded a little....sterile? perhaps? Im not sure. Just kinda technical. So I kinda tried to merge the two
[11:13] Lias Leandros: There is no Linden run resident volunteer program on the grid anymore
[11:13] colleen Criss: listens to Blondin
[11:14] Ginette Pinazzo: lias...your opinion is biased as youve been acvtively trying to diminish this group and even troll it to get peoepl to switch over tyo ZA....public record
[11:14] Blondin Linden: Zindra Expo is a group for residents to join as they plan and host events on the Expo Island, found at the four corners of Distrel, Girenzi, Jaraded and Tramboyn. The purpose of the group is to 1) grant temporary land rights to Residents working
[11:14] Blondin Linden: on approved events using the land and 2) act as a communication tool for the dispersal of information. Please feel free to join the group to get updates on and to participate in Zindra events.

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[11:14] Qie Niangao: Sounds good to me.
[11:14] Blondin Linden: ...thoughts?
[11:14] colleen Criss: stop you 2p lease or cryng outloud
[11:15] Lias Leandros: sterile= clear that it is not to be used for residents to recruit residents in order to send out their personal take on Zindra community issues
[11:15] Zada Bury: the merge sounds good
[11:15] Ginette Pinazzo: I think its far too limiiting, Blondin....and will become a real nightmare later
[11:15] Lias Leandros: ZINDRA EVENTS
[11:15] Bady Boozehound: If it fits in the group charter^^ Agreed.
[11:15] colleen Criss: works great
[11:15] Ginette Pinazzo: bhut its yoru group, Blondin
[11:15] Lias Leandros: Events on Linden owned Land
[11:15] Blondin Linden: I took a look at the group charter as it curretly stands
[11:15] Lias Leandros: not just Zindra events
[11:16] Blondin Linden: and its just the next event and the slurls for my OH
[11:16] Ginette Pinazzo: teh charter is outdated anyway....
[11:16] Hypatia Meili: sounds to me like what has been going on in the group share news and events
[11:16] Lias Leandros: share news and events for things that happen on Linden owned land
[11:16] Ginette Pinazzo: tyhis group can and already ahs doen more than just zexpo iusland events....limiting it is what ZA members want and wil limit all progress
[11:16] Hypatia Meili: you know regardless unles blondin expresly forbids it expo group wil still funbction as a defacto comunity group be cause it is fulof comunity members
[11:16] Qie Niangao: Lias? You mean Linden events on other continents?
[11:16] Lias Leandros: not resident owned land in Zindra
[11:17] Lias Leandros: if you just state ZINDRA EVENTS it will be exploited and presented to people as THE event group for Zindra
[11:17] Silvanus Northman: I think the message should say that this group is a place to speak and plan together with Linden
[11:17] Ginette Pinazzo: I urge to reconsider this limiting charter, Blondin
[11:17] Silvanus Northman: in less and clear words
[11:17] colleen Criss: agrees on that point Lias
[11:17] Lias Leandros: and as Ginette likes to say - it will be presented as the TRUSTED ZIndra event group because it is owned by a Linden
[11:17] Ginette Pinazzo: I agree Silvanus...we hav real opportunity here........that wont be possible with a limited charter
[11:17] Bady Boozehound: Though i think 'for residents to join as they plan and host events' sounds like too much responsibility for many people to join :-)
[11:18] Lias Leandros: yes a realopportunity to exploit the group for your own agenda
[11:18] Silvanus Northman: yes Bady
[11:18] colleen Criss: lol well if they want to use the islands they need to join and be responsible huh
[11:18] Silvanus Northman: a message on an equal leven to the residents would be fine
[11:18] Hypatia Meili: to share news on & to conect in order too? ??
[11:18] Bady Boozehound: Yes ... everyone who volunteers to be a greeter at an event should feel like a host, right colleen^^
[11:18] Ginette Pinazzo: its not my agenda...and I am tired of hearinmg that accusation
[11:19] Lias Leandros: I usge you to add the words "Linden -owned Land" in the charter Blondin
[11:19] Lias Leandros: be honest and clear
[11:19] Ginette Pinazzo: if you cared about Zindra...youd care about the growth of ZE AS WELL as resident-run groups....but you obviosuly dont
[11:19] Lias Leandros: Lindens are not running event groups on the mainland
[11:19] Qie Niangao: look, if it's a Linden owned group, a Linden calls the shots. anybody can make any ol' community group they want, outside the Linden group.
[11:19] colleen Criss: they sponsor not run the events
[11:19] Bady Boozehound: How about you just leave the group charter blank ? I don't think too many people care about group charters anyway ... and it seems it's only causing trouble :-)
[11:19] Lias Leandros: Did you see the notecard that Ginette sends out recruiting people for the Zexpo group?
[11:20] Lias Leandros: it clearly mis represents the group and its purpose
[11:20] Lias Leandros: enough of that
[11:20] colleen Criss: yes it does
[11:20] Hypatia Meili: we can use it to share news on zindra related stuff tho can't we ?
[11:20] Blondin Linden: Interesting idea Bady :)
[11:20] Lias Leandros: you can use any group to talk if you are a member and the officers allow idele chatter
[11:20] Ginette Pinazzo: Blondin....without getting personal (I wont)...its clear from precedence that lias and ZA have been trying to undermine ZE anywya.....isnt this an issue regarding motive? Why not allow for resident runs grous AND ZE to coexist? andf grow?
[11:21] Lias Leandros: thats not the same as exploiting a group becausethe founder is a Linden
[11:21] colleen Criss: ZA does not belong to Lias
[11:21] Lias Leandros: Ginette do you still have that ZEXPO group recruitment notecard you have been sending out?
[11:22] Silvanus Northman: just 'keep it simple' I think
[11:22] Lias Leandros: that answers your question about why the charter has to be CLEAR
[11:22] colleen Criss: I likely have it somewhere
[11:22] Ginette Pinazzo: as I saud....if you CARE about Zuindar for real, ytoud support ZE growing too
[11:22] Hypatia Meili: well expo group is made up of "zindra members" so it becomes a place to share Zindra info
[11:22] Hypatia Meili: i do not see what we would wan to prevent that
[11:22] Blondin Linden: Ginette - I want them to coexist, I do. But I understand how a group formed by a Linden and another one that isn't might look to someone who wants to pick 1 group over another. I just want to be fair
[11:22] Lias Leandros: This was not an issue until you Ginette started misrepresenting teh group for your own gain
[11:22] Ginette Pinazzo: since you have been trying to stop ZE initiatves from day one...(since zewxpo ended)......how can you be taken seriosuly as ZE supporter?
[11:22] colleen Criss: I do support all resident groups , this group is for use of linden lab land
[11:23] Lias Leandros: when we see obvious exploitations - its only smart to close the exploit before it gets out of hand
[11:23] Hypatia Meili: donot need to pick one ots a news and info outlet can be more then one
[11:23] Blondin Linden: I'll take another crack at the charter but Bady's idea of leaving it blank is looking real good :)
[11:23] Ginette Pinazzo: I agree with the Linden Land part...siure.......but not just for events, Blondin
[11:23] Blondin Linden: ok - moving on
[11:23] Qie Niangao: I don't see why ZEXPO *needs* to be more than a land-management group for the expo sims, and spin-off a separate, non-Linden group for all the community stuff.
[11:23] Ginette Pinazzo: exploiutations?????
[11:23] Blondin Linden: 3) Podyan / Zindra name switch
[11:23] Hypatia Meili: becaus peopel ar already in it
[11:23] Lias Leandros: a clear charter stating its a group for residents to join to propose, engage in and get information about ZIndra events on LINDEN OWNED LAND is the best way to stop the group from being exploited for anything else
[11:24] colleen Criss: agrees good idea really
[11:24] Ginette Pinazzo: accuse me of explooitation aga9in and thats it
[11:24] colleen Criss: this groups charter was fine to begin with
[11:24] Bady Boozehound: Let me guess ... you didn't hear anything about the name switch so far, Blondin ?^^
[11:24] Lias Leandros: and that's it?
[11:24] Lias Leandros: lol
[11:24] Blondin Linden: still no update but before we swtich the names (if we do) I want the moles to finish making the current podyan look nice and to add Verification information for new users
[11:24] colleen Criss: STOP
[11:24] colleen Criss: good lord please
[11:24] Lias Leandros: So you will add the kiosksthere in a Mature sim Blondin?
[11:25] Qie Niangao: (frankly, I'm not too sure switching the names is still a good idea)
[11:25] Ginette Pinazzo: yous top colleen...you are not the chair
[11:25] colleen Criss: nor are you !
[11:25] Lias Leandros: are you talking about Colleen's kiosk or just a Linden one?
[11:25] colleen Criss: agenda please
[11:25] Blondin Linden: yeah I will but Im looking for soemthing a bit more than the kiosks, hopefully built out by the moles
[11:25] colleen Criss: hello baby :)
[11:25] Lias Leandros: ythats cool also Blondin\
[11:25] Lias Leandros: ANY adult verification that can be placed in all of the welcome areas across the grid is acceptable
[11:26] Blondin Linden: Im talking about both Lias, both Colleen's kiosk (which I havent done anything with yet and I apologize - IM me this week and we'll set up 1v1 time to place it out) and some Mole work
[11:26] Bady Boozehound: When do you think the moles will get started with that ? And be done with it ? This year ?
[11:26] Lias Leandros: Im sure you saw that Linden Lab advertises ADult verification as a premium perk only to new accounts
[11:26] Hypatia Meili: if it may be something we may use else where plese tell them to keep th prims low, moles love touse prims
[11:26] Toran Babenco: Hey :)
[11:26] colleen Criss: I am presenting this this week and then I will remove it from the agenda as it is pretty stale since 09 , If this is not in your opinion, Blondin, going to come to fruition I am wasting my time and yours continuing to persue this Kiosk.
I've provided l
[11:26] colleen Criss: I've provided low prim and non adult textures and info 2 ways , via web link and inworld LMs etc., and all of it the info LLs uses .
4 prims, generic texture, 1 script. Never needs updated as long as the LLs wiki site is fresh this kiosk can be set out
[11:27] Lias Leandros: Hypatia - colleen made a oneprim sculpty adult verification Kiosk
[11:27] Lias Leandros: hi Toran
[11:27] colleen Criss: at M sim Info HUBS also a link Ive provided to you and quite honestly IF you look it could be set out on G rated sims Info HUBS BUT definately M. V2 drops info in a file folder V1 opens to the LLs wiki page.
[11:27] colleen Criss: Noticing the new coming avatars that pay LLs membership at creation are instantly granted access to all things adult , I see that there is no clear mention of getting age verified w/o PIOF. It appears LLs is pushing adult access as a perk IF they become
[11:27] Lias Leandros: sure - it can and should go in every hub
[11:28] Toran Babenco: Hello Lias :)
[11:28] colleen Criss: paying avatars but not showing adult as available thru age verification only. Seems to me this info is just as valuable as PIOF.
[11:28] Blondin Linden: I do want to place them out Colleen, though sometimes, I need to actually schedule time on my calendar to do things. Otherwise, I get pulled into different directions and forget. And I'll admit, I forget from time to time
[11:28] colleen Criss: end
[11:28] Lias Leandros: there has to be some information about adult verification made available to non premium accounts
[11:28] colleen Criss: understands Blondin
[11:28] Bady Boozehound: Blondin, when do you think the moles will get started with that ? And be done with it ? This year ?
[11:28] Blondin Linden: so lets meet up this week Colleen. Let me know what time works best for you
[11:28] colleen Criss: :) thank you I will
[11:29] VooDoo Greeter: hoho Wonder entered the defined area. (Bear <218.18940, 177.80250, 106.93150>)
[11:29] Qie Niangao: the kiosks can go out as soon as possible... no need to wait for Podyan
[11:29] Blondin Linden: Bady - I dunno. I think they have something to finsih for Linden Homes first but then I think they will ahve the bandwidth
[11:29] colleen Criss: let me ck my schedule and get back with you via notecard
[11:29] Blondin Linden: Ill know more today/tomorrow
[11:29] Blondin Linden: thanks COlleen
[11:29] colleen Criss: :)
[11:30] Blondin Linden: ok next item: Adult Verification Wiki Update
[11:30] Blondin Linden: GInette?
[11:30] Ginette Pinazzo: are you jumping aroudn the agenda again? haha
[11:30] Silvanus Northman: the english version is now different to the other 3 languages
[11:30] Ginette Pinazzo: you were goingt o updatre the how to verify wiki
[11:31] Blondin Linden: yeah I took a pass at it a few weeks ago
[11:31] Blondin Linden: pictures and text were quickly updated
[11:31] Silvanus Northman: and the english version has a link about how to setup the preferences, I didnt see it first, and thought its missed
[11:31] Ginette Pinazzo: a few have told me there is till soem glaring error(s) though
[11:31] Blondin Linden: yeah thats waht I was wondering
[11:31] Silvanus Northman: I see, ok Blondin
[11:31] Blondin Linden: If you see any errors - feel free to email
[11:31] Blondin Linden: and Ill fix them
[11:31] colleen Criss: its not been updated yet to thier new pay perk for new avis
[11:31] Ginette Pinazzo: ok I have feedbcak froma resident or 2 will email you
[11:33] colleen Criss: holy lag batman !
[11:33] Blondin Linden: thanks
[11:33] Blondin Linden: ok next item
[11:33] Blondin Linden: Art Maze 2011 Report
[11:33] colleen Criss: welcomeback handsome :)
[11:33] Ginette Pinazzo: ARt Maze update...all good news.......
[11:34] Ginette Pinazzo: 1. we set out 32 maze sections....we already have half our our artists booked......they have all started building at their own sims and we will be checking up on them every week.....
[11:34] Silvanus Northman: Hi Mapp
[11:34] Toran Babenco: thanks
[11:34] Ginette Pinazzo: 2. We have reporters doing individual artist interviews, for the show's Program Book, website and other PR use........
[11:34] Laurence Mapp: hey Silvanus .)
[11:34] Ginette Pinazzo: 3. we have portrait photographer Gualterio Albatros (PhotoKool Studio), who is doing group shots of all the artists and is also making some cute collectible Art Maze coffee mugs for the lobby........
[11:34] Ginette Pinazzo: 4. We are doing press releases for various inworld and offworld publications now...... (I did get yoru email abt that Blondin)
[11:34] Ginette Pinazzo: 5. I've been working with the LEA on a mutually beneficial relationship. Since the LEA is really just starting out, I think we can help each other........We have LEA members as some of the artists too......
[11:35] Ginette Pinazzo: 6. Ive been talking with Ronon Carver (who runs the 'Rangers' from Burn),. He and/or one of his colleague will sign on as 'advisors' to our team, to help during the event. I dont expect issues like Burn has, partly because we are on Zindra and griefing should be less an issue, but Rowan had some very good ideas to help us......
[11:35] Ginette Pinazzo: FIN
[11:35] Blondin Linden: I;ve worked with Ronan before on Burning Life
[11:36] Ginette Pinazzo: yes he ahd some great insight
[11:36] Ginette Pinazzo: hes our official Art Maze Mediator
[11:36] Blondin Linden: and Im glad to see a tie in with the LEA . They are starting to meet again and COurntey Linden is the liaison there
[11:36] Blondin Linden: I went over this morning to take a look
[11:36] Blondin Linden: looks interesting
[11:37] Blondin Linden: at the regions
[11:37] Ginette Pinazzo: great...I hope to really work closely with them
[11:37] Blondin Linden: excited to see it come together
[11:37] Blondin Linden: does anyone have any questions for GInette?
[11:37] Blondin Linden: constructive questions :)
[11:37] Ginette Pinazzo: you wotn se much of the maze sections themsleves until ,the artists start bring them over to fit otgethr...it will look sparse for a whiel
[11:38] Qie Niangao: Is there a chance the artists would be interested in contributing work for other public locations on the continent?
[11:38] Qie Niangao: I mean, as (more or less) permanent installations?
[11:38] Ginette Pinazzo: I dotn see why you cant ask them Qie...they are all different...difefernt backgrounds...why not ask
[11:38] Ginette Pinazzo: its a great idea
[11:39] Blondin Linden: and by public.....do you mean Linden land?
[11:39] Qie Niangao: yes
[11:39] Ginette Pinazzo: we did solicit artists to design a 'designer' version of the Flickr Slideshow kiosk..for example......
[11:40] Qie Niangao: I mean all the squares, etc, scattered around Kama City, with prims to spare.
[11:40] Ginette Pinazzo: bringing artists from all over into Zindra projects is a great way to do outreach
[11:40] Ginette Pinazzo: (se we can have multiple styles available)
[11:40] Blondin Linden: well, before we drop any instalations - I'd want to make sure that the piece made sense for where you wanted it to go, get neighbor sign off, things like that
[11:41] Silvanus Northman: ok , I made a small slideshow of the actual state there: http://www.myprimspace.com/Zindra/ArtMazeViews/arTMaze.html
[11:41] Ginette Pinazzo: that soudns like a good beautification AND outreach plan, Qie
[11:41] Qie Niangao: Blondin: yeah, that was what I wanted to say: LDPW should be involved.
[11:41] Blondin Linden: agreed Qie
[11:41] chiman fassbinder: New limited edition liter clams available - We have two new clams that are available for purchase with the liters system. As like all the other ones that are available for purchase with liters they are limited edition. Limited to 100 clams to be sold. They are currently setup with the other pearls that are available for trade in with liters. To answer most of your question, yes there will be other clams that are limited edition that you can earn without liters. However, we may or may not be doing it with the fishing like last time. The limited edition liter clams can be found on the docks that hold all our liter system items.
[11:42] Qie Niangao: (okay, enough about that, till things start happening... I just see a certain synergy between LEA and LDPW -- and Zindra could be a good testbed for it)
[11:42] Lias Leandros: So is it that Qie will volunteer to be some public art Liaison and discuss with Blondin and DPW abbout what pieces from the maze event would fit in public spaces in Zindra?
[11:42] colleen Criss: thats a good idea Q
[11:43] Qie Niangao: (Lias, I just want to get the right people talking... I have very austere taste in art, so definitely not me doing any selecting)
[11:43] Qie Niangao: (god the chatlag is killer here today)
[11:44] Ginette Pinazzo: Id say soemoen shoudl write upa proposal for this public space art idea...so we can see the idea in detail
[11:44] Blondin Linden: Sil - you slide show reminded me of the video about the building of the set for HBO's Boardwalk Empire in brooklyn
[11:44] Blondin Linden: Art Maze 2011 Report
[11:44] Lias Leandros: Okthanks Qie
[11:44] Blondin Linden: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlpFHcA98-E
[11:44] Blondin Linden: link fail
[11:44] Blondin Linden: Its timelapse and you watch it being built
[11:44] Blondin Linden: pretty cool
[11:44] Blondin Linden: Boardwalk Empire btw is an awesome show. You should watch or pick up the dvds when its out :)
[11:45] Silvanus Northman: oh interesting
[11:45] Silvanus Northman: ty
[11:45] Silvanus Northman: yes I already opened YT : ) ty Blondin
[11:45] colleen Criss: next agenda item?
[11:45] Blondin Linden: Flickr group Content Standards
[11:45] Blondin Linden: this one fell through the Holiday cracks
[11:45] Blondin Linden: can we pick it up next week?
[11:46] colleen Criss: agrees
[11:46] Lias Leandros: OK
[11:46] Silvanus Northman: : )
[11:46] Ginette Pinazzo: the Fluckr Slideshgow team did write a darft based on yoru thougths Blondin...but it can wait till nexy week
[11:46] Lias Leandros: we alrready discussed Colleen's age verification Kiosk
[11:46] Blondin Linden: Thanks GInette
[11:46] You decline ...::~*Wicked Desires*~::.., Seduction Point (169, 192, 2999) from A group member named Tiff Dreadlow.
[11:46] Blondin Linden: Next: Anonymous Agenda Items
[11:47] colleen Criss: Im sorry Im so lagged I did not mean to jump ahead of line on that one
[11:47] Blondin Linden: Agreed - please sign your name to agenda items :)
[11:47] Blondin Linden: that way I know who to follow up with
[11:47] Lias Leandros: item #2, Item #3 and Item #7 were added by the same person - but that person refuses to addd their name - but shows up here and discusses these items openly - what's that about?
[11:47] Ginette Pinazzo: i9s this constructve?
[11:47] Lias Leandros: yes please sign your name
[11:47] Lias Leandros: yes its constructive
[11:47] colleen Criss: Im hoping we can get to Hypatias agenda item
[11:48] Blondin Linden: Yes - lets move onto Hypa's
[11:48] Blondin Linden: Where to take Non-Zindra ADult Issues
[11:48] Blondin Linden: this is a good one :)
[11:48] colleen Criss: yes it is
[11:48] Ginette Pinazzo: Hypa...you're on!
[11:48] Blondin Linden: WIth people coming and going at Linden Lab, I understand the question
[11:48] Blondin Linden: trust me, I've asked it of myself too
[11:49] Hypatia Meili: well this meetin is always to busy & Geral adlut isses efect us zindra bein adult
[11:49] Hypatia Meili: so wher can we go on gral issues like search
[11:49] Garden Erotica InfoGiver: seb31 Columbia entered the defined area. (Adult Community Center <142.78040, 122.83090, 33.09755>)
[11:49] Blondin Linden: Search and Keywords would, I think fall under Sea Linden
[11:49] Hypatia Meili: and what lias metioned early
[11:49] Hypatia Meili: yes but as adult
[11:49] Blondin Linden: I think she also did some work on the events Listings
[11:50] Hypatia Meili: or just search function
[11:50] Hypatia Meili: needs to adress both
[11:50] Blondin Linden: basic search was her thing so if it has to do with Adult, I think she'd want to hear it
[11:50] Hypatia Meili: lias coment on veficatio is another example
[11:50] Hypatia Meili: Lias Leandros: there has to be some information about adult verification made available to non premium accounts
[11:51] Hypatia Meili: another is :
[11:51] Hypatia Meili: Market Place Does NOT ask if you are over 18 it asks if you wish to see mature.
What is our responsiblity if the newly ariving teen resdents buy adult Items?
[11:51] Blondin Linden: they actually do mention Adult and upgrade accounts to access certain things Linden Homes and ADult content when new users sign up
[11:51] Hypatia Meili: idont expected detiled answer her but wher do we go?
[11:52] colleen Criss: if they buy an account but not for basic
[11:52] Lias Leandros: I did not see it Blonndin
[11:52] colleen Criss: I didnt see it
[11:52] Lias Leandros: and I cretaed a 4 screen jpeg of the new user sign up process
[11:52] Lias Leandros: anyone that wants it just ask
[11:52] Blondin Linden: It's there. I saw it last week when we launcedh single sign ins
[11:52] Lias Leandros: I have it in inventory
[11:52] Garden Erotica InfoGiver: KittyKat Moonwing entered the defined area. (Adult Community Center <142.78140, 122.83150, 32.87887>)
[11:53] Hypatia Meili: the question tho is wher to go on geral adult issues not zindra spefic
[11:53] Blondin Linden: as for the marketplace - I'd need t go back and look. But soemthing tells me they wont even be able to use it
[11:53] Hypatia Meili: as tonot try to sqeeze them in here
[11:53] Ginette Pinazzo: is there an OH meeting for Adult issues in general, Blondin.....? n
[11:54] Hypatia Meili: wel we cant test it as non teens, i only see what it says
[11:54] colleen Criss: teens wont be able to use mktplace??
[11:54] Lias Leandros: its really not there Blondin - I signed out of secondlife.com and went through the registration process as a new player
[11:54] Blondin Linden: Hypa - I hate to tell ya - GEneral adult issues are best sent to me, even if they aren't ZIndra related. Hate to dissappoint ya
[11:54] Hypatia Meili: your other OH?
[11:55] Blondin Linden: You can bring them up here as they affect us all
[11:55] colleen Criss: how do you want to recieve it Blondin in a mtg or via notecard , email?
[11:55] Blondin Linden: but if not here - then my Wed OH would be an ok place for it
[11:55] colleen Criss: tsk sorry lol got out of order
[11:55] Hypatia Meili: ok som seemd to object to non zindra isues tho
[11:55] Blondin Linden: any of those are acceptable colleen
[11:55] Blondin Linden: though some work better than others
[11:56] Hypatia Meili: as long as that is ofical
[11:56] colleen Criss: ty :)
[11:56] Hypatia Meili: i try tomake that but you mised few there too
[11:56] Date Bar Infogiver: KittyKat Moonwing entered the defined area. (Adult Community Center <82.78516, 146.99920, 24.84796>)
[11:56] Ginette Pinazzo: Id say open ended questions are what5 use of precious time the most...if its ina proposal form (a solution sduggested) thats best forthese meetinsg....
[11:56] colleen Criss: not all things require a proposal
[11:56] Blondin Linden: Hypa - if its adult related, I think this is a good place for it. If you want to discuss something on more of a 1v1 level, my wed oh have calmed down quiet a bit. (prob bc I've been canceling a lot of them lately)
[11:57] Hypatia Meili: welli ned to reword th market issue then
[11:57] colleen Criss: some just require a question answered
[11:57] Ginette Pinazzo: no...but this is how to get thinsg done.....weve had the endless open ended question before...nothing got done
[11:57] Ginette Pinazzo: you cant avoid soem of them...but its good to try to coem to the table with solutions when possible
[11:57] colleen Criss: then ignore what does not interest you directly Gina
[11:57] colleen Criss: simple
[11:57] Ginette Pinazzo: colleen..stop being so 'neutral'
[11:57] Blondin Linden: Hypa - if you want to discuss soemthing here , just throw it up on the agenda and we'll try to get to it :)
[11:57] Blondin Linden: ok
[11:58] Lias Leandros: good idea Blondin
[11:58] Blondin Linden: I think thats it for this week....
[11:58] Hypatia Meili: ok
[11:58] Blondin Linden: ?
[11:58] colleen Criss: lol god forbid anyone is neutral
[11:58] Ginette Pinazzo: so Blondin...JAN 10 for the party here? or wherever?
[11:58] Silvanus Northman: ty Blondin : )
[11:58] Blondin Linden: Dec 10th
[11:58] Blondin Linden: ;)
[11:58] Qie Niangao: thanks Blondin
[11:58] Lias Leandros: remeber to sign your name and not just "Zindra" hypatia:-)
[11:58] Hypatia Meili: as long as non zindra but adult is permited
[11:58] colleen Criss: thank you Blondin , chat soon
[11:58] Ginette Pinazzo: I was being facetious colleen.....look it up
[11:58] Blondin Linden: thanks all
[11:58] Silvanus Northman: 10th Dec., ok scheduled : )
[11:58] Zada Bury: thank you for your time , Blondin
[11:58] Hypatia Meili: i diod didnt i?
[11:58] Ginette Pinazzo: ciao Blondin
[11:58] colleen Criss: why would I look it up Im the retard youd like to think I am
[11:59] Hypatia Meili: by blondin
[11:59] colleen Criss: look that up
[11:59] Dancer Greenfield: Bye Blondin
[11:59] Ginette Pinazzo: I never said you were retarded colleen
[11:59] colleen Criss: then do NOT be condesending to me
[11:59] colleen Criss: its wasted
[11:59] Zada Bury: does somebody knows, why they have roll the sims back to that version, which breaking down, if someone TP in or out?
[11:59] Ginette Pinazzo: same here colleen......keep your petty remarks to your insiode voice
[11:59] Ginette Pinazzo: ciao
[11:59] colleen Criss: rofl
[12:00] colleen Criss: hysterical
[12:00] Lias Leandros: In the spirit of Hypatia, I will add the question about the adult verification upon sign up to the agenda when he cleqars it
[12:00] Hypatia Meili: i know there was an issu on tp landin in privat areas due to lag
[12:00] Toran Babenco laughs to himself
[12:00] colleen Criss: Im glad we covered that item !
[12:00] Lias Leandros: One person cannot attribute an agenda item to an entire group - especially if they have not gotten the permission and approval of the group members.
[12:01] Hypatia Meili: i have sevral gues it wiltake awhile
[12:01] colleen Criss: :0dont give up !!
[12:01] colleen Criss: age verify kiosks since 09 but dont give up
[12:01] Hypatia Meili: il metion another to everyone whos stil here
[12:01] colleen Criss: listens
[12:02] Bady Boozehound: happy fun time, party people !
[12:02] Hypatia Meili: mature location with adult keyword now shoow up in adult search instead of being just hidden
[12:02] Lias Leandros: thats better
[12:02] Hypatia Meili: is that policy change or an error
[12:02] Lias Leandros: lol
[12:02] Lias Leandros: I hope a change
[12:02] colleen Criss: if I understand that, according to LLs they re blocking that from all G rated users how I have no clue
[12:03] Hypatia Meili: it means mature location canadvetrise adult activity on mature
[12:03] Lias Leandros: and I would love to see this place wherew new basic accounts are informed of afdult verification that Blondin spoke of